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Can add pob? Had similar problems with phoenix-discovered my minion res wasnt capped. Maybe same problem.	Posted by FrunkBear on Sep 17, 2019, 5:46:23 PM Quote this Post
" RiseOfTheWhiteWolf wrote: " vegeta1991 wrote: Hey guys, my first necro and i kinda like it. endgame is very doable already., yet idk if a Pledge of hands staff is better what would u recommend? also here's my gear so u can critize me, made everything myself so might need some upgrades. That helmet is OP AF. Thanks! Thought it was good but not that good, my first bone helm craft with enchanted fossils for the enchant and a bunch of single bound fossils	Posted by vegeta1991 on Sep 17, 2019, 5:51:54 PM Quote this Post
" De_Don wrote: AAlright. 2 pages ago I was doubting to go PoH. Finally did it and yeah, the survivability is amazing. Clear is about the same but needs to further testing. It may be better. But. Now for the obvious question: Does 2x spell echo really work? Because PoB says that a staff with minion dmg (even a 1alch one with just 100 minion dmg roll) gives about 27.5% more dps. Does anyone have a definitive answer? Because PoB doesn't register 2x spell echo as far as I know. If it doesn't work there's alot more dmg to be gained. I also still wonder what skitterbots do for the build. Im using em now but the 10% shock and chill seems meh. Is there someone that could explain the benefit? I managed to get a +1 curse chest for my wand & shield build and now I don't want to reroll it so Im using a armageddon brand + curse on hit + 2 curses for more single target. I might switch to a solstice but then I'm 1 gem short basically anywhere. So yeah I'm still working out what works best for me but for now: What do skitterbots do for this build and does 2x spell echo really work or does the lvl30 from PoH overwrite gem? (+ if anyone wants to theorycraft with me that'd be amazing :)). Spoiler PoB: https://pastebin.com/EJTTzzMK PoB says I'm about 100k short of dps from OP. Not sure how or why, I might've missed something but I don't know what. Big edit: Woops. Yeah spells do repeat it says so on the tooltip. Still wondering about dem skitterbots though. I have been reading about this for a while now and finally saw what i have been missing in the path of building like from OP. The math works out that pledge of hands' Greater spell Echo is worth 52% MORE damage. Now i am debating with myself about weather to go Victario's Charity and wand or stay Pledge. I like Pledge because it gives increased aoe which means you dont feel the need for increased aoe and can then use concentrated effect for more damage then other gem options. But generating frenzy charges becomes harder. You can run Poachers mark but that becomes less stable then Victario's. Currently i am seeing 357k spectre dps with Pledge and no charges and 500k spectre dps with vic + 100% increased minion damage wand with charges. but i feel i would need increased aoe or at least drop concentrated effect to make the range feel good. SkitterBots er really interesting. The Shock from one of them is supose to be adding 20% more damage, and it does it's shocking really fast and efficiently. The other slows similar to temporal chains but by way less cant say i have felt that being super strong. Last edited by Ginhayabusa on Sep 17, 2019, 6:25:57 PM	Posted by Ginhayabusa on Sep 17, 2019, 6:13:45 PM Quote this Post
" FrunkBear wrote: Can add pob? Had similar problems with phoenix-discovered my minion res wasnt capped. Maybe same problem. sadly i can't use pastebin it will be pob copy link open at your own risk :) Spoiler 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by 4NtiMage on Sep 17, 2019, 6:55:15 PM Quote this Post
" Ginhayabusa wrote: You can run Poachers mark but that becomes less stable then Victario's. I dont know about everyone else but when i played with Victarios i barely hit the mobs to get frenzies for my minions and Aegis is a noob trap in my eyes.	Posted by ElCatti on Sep 17, 2019, 7:14:52 PM Quote this Post
I tried going to the path of building link but it brought me to this website that shows a bunch of computer code that I don't understand. Is the link broken?	Posted by Mycrusade29 on Sep 17, 2019, 8:36:46 PM Quote this Post
" Mycrusade29 wrote: I tried going to the path of building link but it brought me to this website that shows a bunch of computer code that I don't understand. Is the link broken? You have to input the pastebin link into your local Path of Building program.	Posted by ElCatti on Sep 17, 2019, 8:44:26 PM Quote this Post
Hi Kay, thanks for the amazing guide and all the updates. I went for the POH build like the one in POB and the only difference is I used the vigil for the free TC. I have tried uber elder and I got stunlocked to death, and I only got to phase 1. Every time i walk back in the portal elder will slap my face with his normal attack twice and I'm dead. I'm using the CWDT IC and Frost Wall combo with 5.6k hp and 1.4k ES. Is there a way to avoid stunlock? Second thing is could you update in the guide with different gem setup for different spectres? Thanks! here's my gear	Posted by Sky_7 on Sep 17, 2019, 9:21:56 PM Quote this Post
" Sky_7 wrote: Is there a way to avoid stunlock? Dont get hit or use the Brine king Pantheon.	Posted by ElCatti on Sep 17, 2019, 10:02:08 PM Quote this Post
Slow forum, double post. Last edited by ElCatti on Sep 17, 2019, 10:02:53 PM	Posted by ElCatti on Sep 17, 2019, 10:02:09 PM Quote this Post