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Wait the Slave Driver's have less HP now? I think I read that 3-5 pages back. So they will die more often now?

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zenrom wrote:

Feeding Frenzy grants 10% more Minion Damage, 15% increased Minion Movement Speed and 15% increased Minion Attack and Cast Speed

Is this worth 1 slot of sup gem? ( I dont care that improve AI which they should do it in game code, not in a gem)

The AI doesn't have effect on Spetres since they already have large aggro radius. The Feeding Frenzy gem grant 24% more damage and with the Feeding Frenzy buff, maybe total 36,4% more damage and 15% cast speed. In Slave Driver case, the cast speed is important, maybe 15% cast speed equal to 10% increased total dps (without using faster casting support).

The current gem setup for SDs is working fine for clearing, I think no need to change. Additionally, we could swap Controlled Destruction for Death Mark for boss for more DPS

P/S: The Elemental Army support could be use instead of Controlled Destruction, in case of mapping, we don't trigger EE often (just run around and loot), so E.A could give more dps than C.D and make Spectre tankier (since in this league, mobs do more elemental than before)

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6 spectres at gem lvl 31! That's the play right? (That's including +1 from delve/unique chest and the one from passive tree)

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/czot6y/summoner_things_that_we_still_could_use_info_on/ez1nlb0/

Is it even possible to have a lvl 31 spectre gem?

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namibird0127 wrote:

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6 spectres at gem lvl 31! That's the play right? (That's including +1 from delve/unique chest and the one from passive tree)

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/czot6y/summoner_things_that_we_still_could_use_info_on/ez1nlb0/

Is it even possible to have a lvl 31 spectre gem?

+2lvl from dual wielding Convoking wand, +3lvl Bone helmet, +2lvl from ascendancy, +3lvl from Empower Sup and a 21lvl corrupted R.S gem

=> lvl 31 R.S skill

But is it worth for this setup ? lol

Very interesting seeing a bit more about the zombies and spectre levels, I am kinda wondering how to build now seeing the changes. The +1 delve chest still being useful but honestly I think that vis mortis might be better if your going to use zombies and skellies. I am thinking 6 link spectres and using zombies in the helmet in a pseudo 6 link, it also might be worth using spectre in a helmet if you can get level 31 and for the higher levels. I think the added chaos damage from vis to zombies might be worth more than the extra spectre.

I really think helmet might work best for spectres now though because of how much damage they get from every level.

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40700569 wrote:

But is it worth for this setup ?

Diminishing returns.

The baseline DPS for this build is 1mil shaper DPS per spectre. So, you total DPS is like this:

1 spectre: 1 mil
2 spectres: 2 mil (+100%)
3 spectres: 3 mil (+50%)
4 spectres: 4 mil (+33%)
5 spectres: 5 mil (+25%)
6 spectres: 6 mil (+20%)

Now consider the boost from Victario's Charity (frenzy and power charges) can be +30-40%, you can see that the investment to get to 6 spectres gives less damage than 5 spectres and a 1c unique.

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40700569 wrote:

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namibird0127 wrote:

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6 spectres at gem lvl 31! That's the play right? (That's including +1 from delve/unique chest and the one from passive tree)

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/czot6y/summoner_things_that_we_still_could_use_info_on/ez1nlb0/

Is it even possible to have a lvl 31 spectre gem?

+2lvl from dual wielding Convoking wand, +3lvl Bone helmet, +2lvl from ascendancy, +3lvl from Empower Sup and a 21lvl corrupted R.S gem

=> lvl 31 R.S skill

But is it worth for this setup ? lol

You can also get +1 to spectre gems from bound fossils on boots. That with lvl4 empower and I guess corrupt chest could also do it.

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Maethorr wrote:

I think the added chaos damage from vis to zombies might be worth more than the extra spectre.

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Vis Mortis: Now causes minions to gain 15-20% of Elemental Damage as extra Chaos Damage.

The added chaos damage will be given to your elemental spectres!

Yeah, looking at the Vis now it will be much better than a +1 spectre chest. Pretty much Vis is now BIS necro chest.

One thing you all are forgetting to account for is the higher level of the actual spectres though. Every level is substantially more damage. I mean just look at PoB and look at the base damage between a level 78 and a level 82. I honestly think that a +3 helmet might overcome the loss of a single support for the spectres just based on being a higher level alone. It opens up the fact that a 6link zombie and helmet spectre build could be very very powerful.

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kayella wrote:

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40700569 wrote:

But is it worth for this setup ?

Diminishing returns.

The baseline DPS for this build is 1mil shaper DPS per spectre. So, you total DPS is like this:

1 spectre: 1 mil
2 spectres: 2 mil (+100%)
3 spectres: 3 mil (+50%)
4 spectres: 4 mil (+33%)
5 spectres: 5 mil (+25%)
6 spectres: 6 mil (+20%)

Now consider the boost from Victario's Charity (frenzy and power charges) can be +30-40%, you can see that the investment to get to 6 spectres gives less damage than 5 spectres and a 1c unique.

so, it is not really worth to have 6 spectres? How many spectre do you think would be ideal?