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Shisue wrote:

Hello! I'm curious, in a recent 5 way i found a Hubris Jewel (22280 Victario) that has 240% minion damage, 160% minion life and 30% aura effect just a bit north of shadow, do you think this'd be worth incorporating? (it's about 16 point deviation from the tree on your character "Kayella" in legion to get the 240% damage and jewel, then another 2 for 80% life, and a few more for another 80% which is probably not worth it, and 100% resistance can be picked up for another 4, 50 fire, 50 lightning) I'm thinking this investment may be too steep but i'm curious what others think

My main character is build for Pledge of Hands, so it doesn't go to the right side of the tree.

If you're using Wand & Shield, you're pathing to the right so you could try to make the change to pick up the goodies.

I honestly don't think it's worth it because the SDs are already doing a lot of DPS without the timeless jewels. That's why my build doesn't actually take them into account at all.

Once you hit 1mil shaper DPS in PoB, you are already at 2min UE territory. The minion life nodes might be interesting, but they should already be pretty tanky.

On the other hand, if you're using the build with other spectres, such as Lightning RVA, it is worthwhile to get the 80% dmg nodes.

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livejamie wrote:

Is the Mapping better/faster with Pledge?

Yes, much better because of larger aoe coverage.

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Duraze wrote:

I have a ring I'm modding and wondering if adding %to damage applies to minions or just to myself? Would %to lightning damage be better

Any stat must have the word 'minion' in it to apply to minions.

Nice Build

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Bradalee wrote:

Thank you very much for the advice, i managed to get a helm and vis mortis that worked. I'm trying to make sure i have the right gems in the pieces now, but i'm not sure i have the right ones. Currently i have this in my helm:

Raise Specter > Echo Support > Minion Damage Support > Concentrated Effect Support

But i'm really not sure what to put in my Vis Mortis, is there an optimal set-up for the two pieces to work well? I've went from my 4 socket Wraithlord and 6 socket Tabular Rasa so i have less sockets, and i'm having trouble deciding what goes where to be as optimal as i can right now, until i get fully geared!

Thanks for responding before by the way, cool to see a build creator staying active in the thread :D

For the helmet, did you get a minion damage + conc effect? If so, you should put in Raise Spectre, Spell Echo, Faster Casting, Increased AOE.


The minimum you need is 4-linked sockets on your Vis. You will just need to move the AG group to the body. Something like this:

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kayella wrote:

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Shisue wrote:

Hello! I'm curious, in a recent 5 way i found a Hubris Jewel (22280 Victario) that has 240% minion damage, 160% minion life and 30% aura effect just a bit north of shadow, do you think this'd be worth incorporating? (it's about 16 point deviation from the tree on your character "Kayella" in legion to get the 240% damage and jewel, then another 2 for 80% life, and a few more for another 80% which is probably not worth it, and 100% resistance can be picked up for another 4, 50 fire, 50 lightning) I'm thinking this investment may be too steep but i'm curious what others think

My main character is build for Pledge of Hands, so it doesn't go to the right side of the tree.

If you're using Wand & Shield, you're pathing to the right so you could try to make the change to pick up the goodies.

I honestly don't think it's worth it because the SDs are already doing a lot of DPS without the timeless jewels. That's why my build doesn't actually take them into account at all.

Once you hit 1mil shaper DPS in PoB, you are already at 2min UE territory. The minion life nodes might be interesting, but they should already be pretty tanky.

On the other hand, if you're using the build with other spectres, such as Lightning RVA, it is worthwhile to get the 80% dmg nodes.

That's a very good point, thanks for the input!

I just killed uber elder, thanks for broken build!
1 dead only

If I am using a 5 link Vis Mortis, which gem should I drop?

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ChrillePan wrote:

If I am using a 5 link Vis Mortis, which gem should I drop?

POB has gems listed in the 6l for spectre in the order of importance. Elemental Focus being the weakest gem. I would however recommend you take the 6l helm route recommended in the guide as it just means more damage overall for you and is not that much more expensive than a 5l vis mortis to get going.

To do this sell the 5l and pick up one that is 5s instead. You could also pickup a 1c Vis Mortis and just do sockets yourself going from 1->2->1->2 sockets until both are Red then do 2->3->2->3 sockets until 3 is Blue and do the same for the fourth slot and then link it. This may cost about 100 jewllers orbs (Could be less/more depending on luck). You can do this with chrome as well just depending on if you go with the 1c or 10c option for a Vis Mortis.

Slap animated guardian lvl 20, empower lvl 3, stone/chaos golem, and minion life lvl 20 on it. Then the last one can be anything you still need and fits in with the color you have available (Portal, Dread Banner, Convocation, etc.).

This revolves around having a helm with 2 skills you need for the build at level 20 (Lvl 16 will work as well if your on a super budget OP says its only 8% less damage to go this route) to make a super cheap 6l spectre. Depending on the helm and demand at the time these can be 10-80c. Here is an example of one.



With this you should be able to clear up to t16 and shaper/elder pretty easily.

guys is there a any tip or trick to get +1 spectre chest from delve? i've started to go only armor spots for a while but no luck. :(