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Alenael wrote:
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Haiatu wrote:
Is there something special about Armageddon Brand that I'm missing? Something that would make it an obvious better choice over something like Firestorm?


I find it doesn't even matter what you use but Armageddon offers more flexibility in giving minions direction in my opinion. It also helps them to chase weird bosses who run around. Most of the time I just let Blade Vortex be my primary way to direct minions and I don't need anything more.


So if Armageddon is on say a boss for its duration the minions will continue to follow that mob more so than normal, is that what you're saying? That would be nice for sure
Last edited by Haiatu on Jul 21, 2019, 2:43:56 PM
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Haiatu wrote:
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Alenael wrote:
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Haiatu wrote:
Is there something special about Armageddon Brand that I'm missing? Something that would make it an obvious better choice over something like Firestorm?


I find it doesn't even matter what you use but Armageddon offers more flexibility in giving minions direction in my opinion. It also helps them to chase weird bosses who run around. Most of the time I just let Blade Vortex be my primary way to direct minions and I don't need anything more.


So if Armageddon is on say a boss for its duration the minions will continue to follow that mob more so than normal, is that what you're saying? That would be nice for sure


That's what I have seen from my experience. Just keep boss within leash range and they will continue to fight him and they have a pretty good range they can hit within as well.
Got a 6 link Vis Mortis now and feeling much stronger with it and the new helm.

My Gear


Next goal is a much better wand. I have the base to craft one just need to save up a few ex to do the crafts. I may consider going for Pledge of Hands instead and trying out the alternative build and see how that feels as well.



Last edited by Alenael on Jul 21, 2019, 8:09:02 PM
Hey Kayella (or anyone else replying to this)

I (accidentally) 6-linked my Vis mortis in 18 fusings, right after having bought my 6-linked pledge of hands.

Any good ideas for things to put in it, along with the 6-linked plegde?

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Alenael wrote:
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Telgum wrote:
Hey Kayella, I don't have enough currency and patiente to get your exact gear, so I did the 6L helmet thing with some variations (I'm out of chromas right now). What do you think?



Looks like a good start. Next move would be to 5s your Vis Mortis and 5l it with The Jeweller's Touch prophesy. Then look for an upgrade helm like below.



I was able to get that for less than 50c and craft minion life on it. It has served me well while I save for a 6l Vis Mortis. I recently got a new helm for when I get my Vis Mortis 6l as well in the next few days.



So what would be the best gem to use in that 5L Vis Mortis? I'm currently using Golem+Guardian+MinionLife+MinionElementalResist

And what would be the use for Chaos Golem? I saw you using it!

By the way how are you able to cast 2 auras+Banner? I took the same skills like you, Charisma and the previous one (8% and 4% mana reserv.) but I'm still not able to cast the three gems
Last edited by Telgum on Jul 21, 2019, 8:55:28 PM
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Telgum wrote:

So what would be the best gem to use in that 5L Vis Mortis? I'm currently using Golem+Guardian+MinionLife+MinionElementalResist

And what would be the use for Chaos Golem? I saw you using it!

By the way how are you able to cast 2 auras+Banner? I took the same skills like you, Charisma and the previous one (8% and 4% mana reserv.) but I'm still not able to cast the three gems



I used animated guardian, minion life, stone golem, flame dash, convocation, faster casting. I set mine up so it was 4l and a 2l and I could attach faster casting to flame dash. Depending on what you want to use and how many unset rings you have your options may change.

Chaos Golem adds some extra damage reduction which provides some def overall if you can socket it. Its a bit easier to fit in if you use Pledge of Hands. You can kinda choose if you would rather have Chaos/Stone Golem or Dread Banner. Taking two or more is pretty hard to do because you quickly run out of sockets for gems.

With 12% from tree you should be able to cast all 3. You could also buy an item that gives -4% to -6% reserved mana as well. I picked up an ammulet that had -5 Mana % reserved to make it a little easier to have all 3 up and never worry about running out of mana. With this setup I have 17% reduced mana reservation and sit at around 55 MP. I HAVE to do it this way because I linked Dread Banner on my helm which has Empower, Minion Life, Animated Golem. This raised reservation needed for me. If you don't have enough your gems are to high of a level and you must compensate.


Last edited by Alenael on Jul 21, 2019, 11:07:56 PM
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Hey Kayella (or anyone else replying to this)

I (accidentally) 6-linked my Vis mortis in 18 fusings, right after having bought my 6-linked pledge of hands.

Any good ideas for things to put in it, along with the 6-linked plegde?



There's nothing in the chest set up that needs to be 6-linked. Convocation give slightly more regen, and Flame Dash gets more cooldown recovery (actually good).



I haven't sold mine purely because I kept it for testing purposes (swapping out of the staff).

To be honest, I would consider selling it. You could use the currency to buy a rare +1 spectre chest and craft it. The main benefit is losing the 20% life penalty to minions from Vis.
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Alenael wrote:
Got a 6 link Vis Mortis now and feeling much stronger with it and the new helm.

My Gear


Next goal is a much better wand. I have the base to craft one just need to save up a few ex to do the crafts. I may consider going for Pledge of Hands instead and trying out the alternative build and see how that feels as well.





It'll cost you about 4ex to craft the wand (prefixes cannot be changed, scour, multimod, trigger, minion cast speed). I can do the craft if you need it.

btw, I suggest putting dread banner in an unlinked slot if Empower is causing a mana reserve problem.
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holmedog wrote:
I can't replicate the trick to getting spectres with Pledge of Hands. I am using a 5 link Pledge, is that the reason?


Hm. It could be. I hadn't tested with a 5L Pledge.

The way around this is to have a 5L staff in your offhand and put raise spectre in the same slot (ie slot 1).
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kayella wrote:

It'll cost you about 4ex to craft the wand (prefixes cannot be changed, scour, multimod, trigger, minion cast speed). I can do the craft if you need it.

btw, I suggest putting dread banner in an unlinked slot if Empower is causing a mana reserve problem.


Thanks. I am missing Trigger at this time so I may take you up on that offer once I scour and multi mod it. This is the only real reason I have not done it yet.

Currently I have a -5% Mana reserve mod on my ammy so I have no Mana problems with Dread Banner getting empowered. I don't really think the extra levels of it being much to the build though so I could def do without it.

I think I am ready to try my first Uber shaper/elder now with this setup.
Last edited by Alenael on Jul 22, 2019, 12:35:10 AM

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