I still have a few levels to go, but want to know what can i do to improve my character. I'm having a blast with this build, was playing with SG, but change to FE. I'm not a faster clear myself, i like to go more slow and seems like the FE damage is higher then SG. I'm playing on LSC in xbox so the market is not friendly and buy stuffs is a pain in the ass. Any tip from what gear to change and what to improve will help a lot. Thanks for the guide, very well struct |
Posted byLuttrixon Jul 4, 2019, 3:22:08 PM
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I just killed shaper and then uber elder with gmp no problem. Will post some vids later to show what I used. Animate guardian also survived both encounters - again no problem (in fact he has never died). A lot of people seem to be doubting the power of the original build and feeling like you 'have' to add spiders for dps but I can assure everyone it is still very strong and capable just with solar guards and you don't need to switch any gems.
The only real changes I have made from the original build are ...
1.craft the +1 min endurance charges on all jewellery
2.put storm brand set up in shield
3.put increase duration in immortal call set up in boots
4.use a basalt flask instead of jade
5.have 1 source of blind, taunt, hinder across abyss jewels
for uber elder I also make these changes
1.take out unending hunger jewel for another abyss jewel
2.replace bleed life flask with remove freeze life flask
3.replace remove curse quicksilver with movement quicksilver
And thats it! Hope everyone enjoys!
I could try uber elder again but think its time to run some elder glaciers ...
Here's the videos ... gear shown at end of the uber elder vid, thanks again for the build.
Shaper Video
Uber Elder Video
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Posted bysepticprawnon Jul 4, 2019, 4:24:11 PM
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What is the best FE gem set up for U elder? Having trouble finding it in this giant thread.
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Posted bygromkinson Jul 4, 2019, 5:47:23 PM
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Do i just have to move slower or learn how to manage better when playing with enhanced vaal, I'm not able to speed run low maps like I could with solar guards, if i port into middle of mobs, vaal kill them, but I keep dying first before i can hit flask or teleport anyway, should I simply be moving slower and spamming less or is there more method to the madness, still a sick build, definitely kills boss quicker, if i dont do something stupid to die first
Are you using Spiders? The Vaal are really just for boss killing. The spiders should take care of the map clearing duties.
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I've just completed testing of a new variant of the build: Vaal + Frost + Phantasms.
It uses 2 Enhanced Vaal for boss killing and 2 Frost Sentinels linked with Phantasms to safely clear maps. Naturally, it's not as powerful as using 4 Enhanced Vaal, but there is no issue of slow clear speed or having to resummon Spiders all the time. Additionally, with 13 minions shooting cold damage projectiles, it freezes/shatters most monsters in a map. I really enjoy using this variant and would consider it my default build.
Dark Forest mapping demo: https://youtu.be/zRwZD34ZTcA
Depth 284 delve demo: https://youtu.be/nhxiAa1Y_u4
Uber Elder demo: https://youtu.be/8L4lwckOFNM
PoB: https://pastebin.com/2EJzii64
Gear:
That's interesting, what's your thoughts about loosing animate guardian for the Vaal Fallen ?
It's worth it ?
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Posted byMantikeraon Jul 4, 2019, 6:05:46 PM
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I see that you skip some of the minion +DMG nodes in the passive tree - is it any particular reason for this? :)
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Posted byJaeger88on Jul 4, 2019, 6:11:45 PM
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Do i just have to move slower or learn how to manage better when playing with enhanced vaal, I'm not able to speed run low maps like I could with solar guards, if i port into middle of mobs, vaal kill them, but I keep dying first before i can hit flask or teleport anyway, should I simply be moving slower and spamming less or is there more method to the madness, still a sick build, definitely kills boss quicker, if i dont do something stupid to die first
Are you using Spiders? The Vaal are really just for boss killing. The spiders should take care of the map clearing duties.
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I've just completed testing of a new variant of the build: Vaal + Frost + Phantasms.
It uses 2 Enhanced Vaal for boss killing and 2 Frost Sentinels linked with Phantasms to safely clear maps. Naturally, it's not as powerful as using 4 Enhanced Vaal, but there is no issue of slow clear speed or having to resummon Spiders all the time. Additionally, with 13 minions shooting cold damage projectiles, it freezes/shatters most monsters in a map. I really enjoy using this variant and would consider it my default build.
Dark Forest mapping demo: https://youtu.be/zRwZD34ZTcA
Depth 284 delve demo: https://youtu.be/nhxiAa1Y_u4
Uber Elder demo: https://youtu.be/8L4lwckOFNM
PoB: https://pastebin.com/2EJzii64
Gear:
Where would I socket the hypothermia support, or is it shown in the videos too?
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Posted bynechrophagyon Jul 4, 2019, 6:51:18 PM
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Where would I socket the hypothermia support, or is it shown in the videos too?
I had an unfortunate death just as the bosses died so I didn't show the gear in the Uber Elder video.
I recommend swapping GMP for Hypothermia. It will reduce the amount of spell effect clutter, so you can see what the boss is doing, and it will give a substantial boost to the Frost Sentinels and Phantasms.
🔰🌀✨ Video guides on youtube! https://www.youtube.com/KayGaming ✨🌀🔰
🔶🔷🔶 Kay's Summoner build guide: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3179145 🔶🔷🔶
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Posted bykayellaon Jul 4, 2019, 11:49:32 PM
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I see that you skip some of the minion +DMG nodes in the passive tree - is it any particular reason for this? :)
If you mean at the witch starting area, it's because pathing to the left is optimal for life builds. It reduces the amount of travel nodes to get to Quick Recovery and also gives easy access to Mind over Matter (for people who like using it). Also, the witch start minion nodes only give 20% increased damage and I think the passives are better spent elsewhere.
If you are referring to Spiritual Command and Sacrifice, I feel that we can get the same amount of increased minion damage while also getting life if we path towards jewel sockets elsewhere in the tree.
Of some people like using those notables, which is another reason why I path to the left of the witch starting: to give easy access to Spiritual Command and Sacrifice.
🔰🌀✨ Video guides on youtube! https://www.youtube.com/KayGaming ✨🌀🔰
🔶🔷🔶 Kay's Summoner build guide: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3179145 🔶🔷🔶
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Posted bykayellaon Jul 4, 2019, 11:57:01 PM
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That's interesting, what's your thoughts about loosing animate guardian for the Vaal Fallen ?
It's worth it ?
Yes, I think so.
I no longer live in fear of my AG being killed and losing up to 1ex in gear (depending on market value).
Unfortunately, I lose the benefit of Combustion (-19% fire res) and Kingmaker (culling strike + fortify + crit multi), but my main damage dealers (Vaal) already do 1.5-2mil shaper DPS, so they're fine.
🔰🌀✨ Video guides on youtube! https://www.youtube.com/KayGaming ✨🌀🔰
🔶🔷🔶 Kay's Summoner build guide: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3179145 🔶🔷🔶
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Posted bykayellaon Jul 5, 2019, 1:33:52 AM
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What is the best FE gem set up for U elder? Having trouble finding it in this giant thread.
If you have 5 blue and 1 green, you don't need to change any gems. Faster Projectiles will allow the FEs to easily kill the octopuses in the portal phases. However, if you want more DPS, you can swap Faster Proj for Pierce (19% more). I don't recommend Slower Projectiles because the range becomes too short and you won't be able to hit anything.
If you have 5 blue and 1 white socket, you can swap Faster Projectiles for Fire Penetration (-37% fire res). Once you reduce a monster to 0% resistance, any penetration acts like a 'more modifier', so Fire Pen is like '37% more damage'.
🔰🌀✨ Video guides on youtube! https://www.youtube.com/KayGaming ✨🌀🔰
🔶🔷🔶 Kay's Summoner build guide: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3179145 🔶🔷🔶
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Posted bykayellaon Jul 5, 2019, 1:38:55 AM
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