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Hi...... how to make sure of the level of the spectres. When they have been created and improved in a high-level instance, and the gemstone desecrate is put back on the wand with Triger, do they not lose their value? Thanks
je suis dans un Tier 6 et je les trouve faibles, ils n'arretent pas de mourrir ... je comprends plus
I'm in a Tier 6 and I find them weak, they don't stop dying... I understand more
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redix27 wrote:
@kayella, how proc spiders from Arakaali´s dagger?, first, desecrate and then pop worm´s flask? sometimes it doesn´t work or i´m doing something wrong. Who must kill worms, me or spectres?


Watching the video, it looks as if Kayella casts desecrate a few times, then storm brand twice over/near the corpses (which he is practically next to/on top of), and then a third storm brand farther away from the bodies, making his spectres go a bit out of range so they do not attack and kill the worms. Then he pops the flask for the worms and storm brand kills them, summoning spiders from the kills and the corpses.

Honestly (and this is just my lazy side being lazy), this seems like a tad bit of work for the uptime and I have no doubt that I will forget time and time again, aggravating myself.
Last edited by GoatEatingToilet on Jun 20, 2019, 6:26:30 PM
Hello guys. What is the red gem i can use, until i get 5 blue sockets?Elemental damage with attack skill?Sry for my english
Last edited by Kenfar on Jun 20, 2019, 8:07:09 PM
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kayella wrote:
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redix27 wrote:
Can you explain how do you use your Arakaali´s dagger ? i mean, only for bosses? or just all content? if both, do you use x2 tabulas?


I'm currently using the Enhanced Vaal version of the build. They move like snails, so the Arakaali spiders are for map clearing. Once I get to the boss room, I weapon swap to my trigger wand for Flesh Offering and my Dread banner. I'm only using a Tabula with 19/0 gems, so the DPS is a bit low.

Spiders come from the dagger, so they can only have 3 support gems:



Enhanced Vaal + Spiders Mapping Demo: https://youtu.be/Q66KSECBSqc



So do you recommend Spiders + Enhanced Vaal Fallen over the FE/SG/FS spectres now ?
Anyone willing to let me desecrate there Enhanced Vaal Fallen please?
Hey whats better for the build:

Steelskin vs Immortal call? (and which lvl set up with cwdt would u suggest)

Thanks :)
Last edited by Pynea on Jun 20, 2019, 9:02:43 PM
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Kenfar wrote:
Hello guys. What is the red gem i can use, until i get 5 blue sockets?Elemental damage with attack skill?Sry for my english


You dont use red gems with SGs or FE, that is terrible base armour for those spectres :(
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mc29654363 wrote:

Forgot to mention haste! thought I did, my bad.

Yes, of course, you can use vaal haste with ranged specters and it will benefit them both. I mainly use malevolence for the skill duration, and because I put it there some time ago and forgot to swap it xD.
you can even grab the for mana reserve nodes at the top left part of the tree and use 2 50% mana reserve auras in the diadem (+ dread banner, all linked with generosity) ad a precision gem, but you'll lose flesh and stone and I kinda grew to like it (boost on the survival front + amazing damage due to maim when using melee specters, but I hardly do so and when I do, I just forget to change the stance xD).

I have 20 spiders up for uber elder/shaper most of the time (never less than 18 though).

I use SG most of the time, but just because I already have them and can't be bothered to change them xD. A ranged alternative would be frost sentinels, they should be better overall (the benefit from hatred plus now they can freeze/shatter legion mobs, so...) but I can't use them due to "health reasons".

To summon spiders using ranged specters you have to desecrate right on top of you, hold storm brand and hit the flask! It should be sufficient to just hit the flask once. If you are using devouring diadem, you have to desecrate AFTER feast of flesh activates, or it will consume all your corpses and you'll waste your flask charges (it's not difficult at all, the skill activates every 5 secs. You'll get used to it in no time). A nice QoL is to use spell cascade + desecrate, but it's not needed.


Thx for the info man (and thanks to ashanae, kayella and everyone else who's helped me as well), how important would you say Precision and Victario's is? I don't really want to do deal with Devouring Diadem's proc (and no HP stat) so I'm trying a reduced reserve shield and dropping Precision, but I dunno how much DPS I'm dropping with that. Other than that, is there much I can do to improve my damage? It's not like it's bad but it doesn't feel insane.
Last edited by MasterLuminosity on Jun 21, 2019, 1:27:13 AM

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