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What jewels do you use for the base build? I should be using Slave Drivers as spectres, correct? Also would love any advice on my gear!
Why are people running both Steelskin and Bone Armor?
My first time playing pure spectres and i have been having a lot of fun. My damage so far is pretty alright, nothing near what i see in videos, but that is most likely down to my mediocre gear.

My one problem right now is being very squishy. Anyone that would feel like taking a look at my character and maybe suggest some things?

Thank you in advance :)
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TheWizz87 wrote:
Hello,

I'm trying to end my build ( lol ) but I'm a bit lost. Dont have much currency, got a lot of worthless..ex.
I want to kill boss faster or / and have more survavibility. I realy have problem with single DPS...

"


What should I focus for? Jewel? Belt? Cluster?
And if I have to use cluster, what should I pick? Never used them, dont even know how to buy them


I'd try a different approach. While I love kay's builds, every one of them endgame variants are glass cannons tailored for melting bosses in 2 seconds and relying on player skill and boss knowledge not to get hit in case the spectres do not melt the bosses in 2 seconds.

But, real world scenarios for the vast majority of players is quite different, mostly for currency limitations or player knowledge. Kay is an advanced necro player. We often run rippy maps and will simply die by surprise dps spikes that you will not even know where came from, if we use this diadem and cluster jewels approach.

So the below suggestions will be mostly aimed at your request for more tankiness and damage. Tankiness for me, in this league especially, is way better than min maxing tooltip dps.

-You are not using animate guardian so I advise that to be your next top priority. You will not go too far without animate guardian so waste a little time learning about it, and setting it up.

- You dont need a 6link animate guardian to make him tanky.

- Wath this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5GQBhmirc4 and check the most expensive variant. It is something that if you cant afford right now, should be your next goal. Believe me, with the 90k life and regen of 18k life per second, the guardian is unkilable, Nothing ever touches it. You just put it in your helmet that may contain ONLY minion life of 18 or more, so pretty cheap. Check my gear in my profile for reference. I'm now at lvl 99 and I practically dont die unless to really crazy stuff.

- If you try to go for a helmet that is worth around 100ex which is damage based, pseudo 7link or 6link for spectres, it will be a freaking waste of cash, because first, minion damage is not too useful for S.O. and hypothermia also not super useful, because you will be casting frost bomb manually to destroy the boss cold res, and the guardian will be debuffing the boss with elemental weakness too.
Another bonus that these 100ex helmets do have is minion life, which is a waste too, for spectres. Believe me , they will not die unless you run elemental reflect maps without using pantheon for reduced reflect damage.

- The top setup i found for operatives which is versatile (map and boss) without having to swap gem is spectre> spell echo > feeding frenzy > elem damage with attacks > volley > vicious proj. Amazing clear speed and nice boss kill speed while you can focus on a more defensive tree.

- like another fellow suggested above, get rid of the proxy ring and put bonechill on the skitterbots. Armagedon brand and frost bomb being casted manually will make you melt bosses pretty fast while not instantly.

-if you can, get 3 minimum endurance charges and get the block nodes on the tree and Glancing blows notable. Blocking is really good and preferrably you dont wanna rely on a flask for blocking because you can get killed instantly most of the times without knowing where it come from, before you can use a flask. So preferrably, for safe builds, go with shield passives. This will make you incredibly durable, kind of a game changer actually. You can have +2 on shield and +1 in one ring or +1 in shield, ring and ring. It is that cool! Also, you can run chaos golem on top of all that for an extra 5% reduced damage which works pretty nicely with the tankiness synergy.

-upgrade your amulet for one containing +1 to all intel skills, it is a cool little bonus!

I hope sharing my experience of success with this build helps you or other people reading the thread! Let me know of anything else you wish to know.


what can i upgrade it feels like i hit a wall and cant get anymore unless i spend +60ex and the increase doesnt justify paying that much.
Last edited by iamDoudar on Oct 27, 2020, 1:25:59 PM
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barathustra wrote:
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TheWizz87 wrote:
Hello,

I'm trying to end my build ( lol ) but I'm a bit lost. Dont have much currency, got a lot of worthless..ex.
I want to kill boss faster or / and have more survavibility. I realy have problem with single DPS...

"


What should I focus for? Jewel? Belt? Cluster?
And if I have to use cluster, what should I pick? Never used them, dont even know how to buy them


I'd try a different approach. While I love kay's builds, every one of them endgame variants are glass cannons tailored for melting bosses in 2 seconds and relying on player skill and boss knowledge not to get hit in case the spectres do not melt the bosses in 2 seconds.

But, real world scenarios for the vast majority of players is quite different, mostly for currency limitations or player knowledge. Kay is an advanced necro player. We often run rippy maps and will simply die by surprise dps spikes that you will not even know where came from, if we use this diadem and cluster jewels approach.

So the below suggestions will be mostly aimed at your request for more tankiness and damage. Tankiness for me, in this league especially, is way better than min maxing tooltip dps.

-You are not using animate guardian so I advise that to be your next top priority. You will not go too far without animate guardian so waste a little time learning about it, and setting it up.

- You dont need a 6link animate guardian to make him tanky.

- Wath this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5GQBhmirc4 and check the most expensive variant. It is something that if you cant afford right now, should be your next goal. Believe me, with the 90k life and regen of 18k life per second, the guardian is unkilable, Nothing ever touches it. You just put it in your helmet that may contain ONLY minion life of 18 or more, so pretty cheap. Check my gear in my profile for reference. I'm now at lvl 99 and I practically dont die unless to really crazy stuff.

- If you try to go for a helmet that is worth around 100ex which is damage based, pseudo 7link or 6link for spectres, it will be a freaking waste of cash, because first, minion damage is not too useful for S.O. and hypothermia also not super useful, because you will be casting frost bomb manually to destroy the boss cold res, and the guardian will be debuffing the boss with elemental weakness too.
Another bonus that these 100ex helmets do have is minion life, which is a waste too, for spectres. Believe me , they will not die unless you run elemental reflect maps without using pantheon for reduced reflect damage.

- The top setup i found for operatives which is versatile (map and boss) without having to swap gem is spectre> spell echo > feeding frenzy > elem damage with attacks > volley > vicious proj. Amazing clear speed and nice boss kill speed while you can focus on a more defensive tree.

- like another fellow suggested above, get rid of the proxy ring and put bonechill on the skitterbots. Armagedon brand and frost bomb being casted manually will make you melt bosses pretty fast while not instantly.

-if you can, get 3 minimum endurance charges and get the block nodes on the tree and Glancing blows notable. Blocking is really good and preferrably you dont wanna rely on a flask for blocking because you can get killed instantly most of the times without knowing where it come from, before you can use a flask. So preferrably, for safe builds, go with shield passives. This will make you incredibly durable, kind of a game changer actually. You can have +2 on shield and +1 in one ring or +1 in shield, ring and ring. It is that cool! Also, you can run chaos golem on top of all that for an extra 5% reduced damage which works pretty nicely with the tankiness synergy.

-upgrade your amulet for one containing +1 to all intel skills, it is a cool little bonus!

I hope sharing my experience of success with this build helps you or other people reading the thread! Let me know of anything else you wish to know.


Many good tips. Do you have any tips for me running pure physics SO in SSF, or is elemental version more safe?

/Onin
In some way, my Syndicate Operative spectres died in one Heist.

After that I went to my hideout to resummon them and they were gone.
I couldn't see any Syndicate operatives when I used desecrate, only skeletons...

Any idea about how to prevent that?
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Chronos69 wrote:
In some way, my Syndicate Operative spectres died in one Heist.

After that I went to my hideout to resummon them and they were gone.
I couldn't see any Syndicate operatives when I used desecrate, only skeletons...

Any idea about how to prevent that?


Make a spectre bank, Kay and others have videos on youtube on how to do it. Its very easy and gives you the ability to get back dead spectres.
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Chronos69 wrote:
In some way, my Syndicate Operative spectres died in one Heist.

After that I went to my hideout to resummon them and they were gone.
I couldn't see any Syndicate operatives when I used desecrate, only skeletons...

Any idea about how to prevent that?


The minute you notice them missing start getting them back, ie in that same map/area.

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