[3.13] "EQ JUGG" EARTHQUAKE T H I C C JUGGERNAUT Build 2021 Edition (Staff/Mace) + UBER ELDER!

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grimchip wrote:

this build is bad and you should feel bad. I normally don't hate on builds, but the flashy super expensive build guides need to go. They're misleading and really give new players a hard time. I get you're trying to make the "iconic" jugg EQ, but please just stop with this shit, it's cancer.

this is the build i'm running, it has about ~40% more damage, ALOT more survivability, doesn't require any expensive uniques or rares and has more movespeed to boot for that sweet vaal EQ clear.

https://pastebin.com/6wVExQ61

keep in mind that the bleed dps is multiplied by 8, which comes out to about 124k extra dps.

You'll see I have a pretty expensive rare chest and the determination watcher's eye, neither of those are required for this build to be viable and it can do more damage than this guys build with less then 2ex of investment.

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grimchip wrote:

this build is bad and you should feel bad. I normally don't hate on builds, but the flashy super expensive build guides need to go. They're misleading and really give new players a hard time. I get you're trying to make the "iconic" jugg EQ, but please just stop with this shit, it's cancer.

this is the build i'm running, it has about ~40% more damage, ALOT more survivability, doesn't require any expensive uniques or rares and has more movespeed to boot for that sweet vaal EQ clear.

https://pastebin.com/6wVExQ61

keep in mind that the bleed dps is multiplied by 8, which comes out to about 124k extra dps.

You'll see I have a pretty expensive rare chest and the determination watcher's eye, neither of those are required for this build to be viable and it can do more damage than this guys build with less then 2ex of investment.

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hitreza wrote:

very nice!

but wouldn't it be better to aim for 100% bleeding chance for even more consistant damage?

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Inceptive wrote:

Take your negativity elsewhere, troll.

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Azamilol wrote:

is this build playable with sunder instead of earthquake with the same items?

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grimchip wrote:

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hitreza wrote:

very nice!

but wouldn't it be better to aim for 100% bleeding chance for even more consistant damage?

outside of gaurdians/shaper you have about an 88% bleed chance, but getting to 100 is definitely optimal. I just felt that the options for bleed outside of what the tree/vulnerability offered didn't outweigh the benefits of the items I already had. You certainly won't notice a massive difference if you swap from tombfist, to say heamophilia. But tombfist is objectively better because it offers intimidate which is 10% more damage and a bunch of other amazing things like two abyss sockets and health and attack speed.

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Inceptive wrote:

Take your negativity elsewhere, troll.

I'm not trolling at all, his build is outdated and terrible compared to what EQ can achieve right now. I'm usually silent about these things and content to have my advantage and let the masses think what they want, I've decided to do the opposite today. Also i'm being incredibly negative because it is warranted. Right now these forums are generally distrusted by any poe player who isn't a complete beginner due to the these build guides generally lieing about what they are capable of, what their power level is in relation to other builds and how expensive the build is to make.

These guys make build guides like mcdonalds advertises their extremely unhealthy heart attack/diabetes causing food.

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Angry_Roleplayer wrote:

Go and create your own thread, make a solid build guide, create videos and stuff. Stop instigating my thread with your bs nonsense please. Your build does not do more damage in any way, and my build is not outdated.

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grimchip wrote:

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Angry_Roleplayer wrote:

Go and create your own thread, make a solid build guide, create videos and stuff. Stop instigating my thread with your bs nonsense please. Your build does not do more damage in any way, and my build is not outdated.

I actually am in the process of making a guide, not for the poe forums of course, which i believe are beyond saving and should just be allowed to die.

your guide absolutely is outdated, you're still using hemophilia which is inferior to tombfist in almost every situation, there is no vaal potion (the 1 alch version or 8ex version) which maximizes vaal eq's damage (vaal eq does about double the damage of regular eq, so it should be priortized). You're not pure phys, which locks you into aura's and potions for extra elemental damage in order to do "decent" damage.

let's look at your build. i went ahead and opened your build in path of building. let's pretend you have 100% flask uptime (you don't, especially on bosses where it matters) and you have unholy might/onslaught (8% chance on kill for 4 seconds, but hey im generous). you're doing 240k dps with the main hit and close to 360k dps with the aftershock (assuming 3 per second) and then 13k bleed dps

240k+360k+13k=613k dps. IF ALL FLASKS ARE UP AND YOU KILLED LIKE 12 MOBS. again very unrealistic setting for the fights that eq typically struggles with.

Here's me. No dps requirements for on kill shit. the only flask this build relies on is lions roar, which your build also uses in addition to two other dps flasks.

206k+345k+144k(bleedx8)=695k. That's almost 15% more dps then your build and I can't state this enough, my build has no onkill requirements and only 1 dps flask.

Should i show the numbers of our builds with no flasks or on kill damage? nah, that would be embarrassing.

Here's what my build has in utility and defenses over yours.

vaal flask for 40% more vaal eq damage and double vaal eq.

arctic armour for 11% less fire and cold damage taken and 30% attack speed slow on attackers.

my build has over double the armour

my build has over double the movespeed (probably the most important considering it's faster for clear then your 2h leap slam and is better for vaal eq)

9% additional phys reduction from watchers eye

30% block

16% evade

these are the things my build has that yours doesn't and can't get without giving up significant damage or defenses.

here are both the pob's https://pastebin.com/YhbuZ7he (yours) https://pastebin.com/h3k8b06Z (mine)

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Azamilol wrote:

@Angry_Roleplayer why you dont take iron reflexes in your skill tree?