What are people most interested in?

This is my current view on the existing format options. Stressing that this is my thoughts, nothing more or less. This is also with the perspective of growing PvP not personal preference of the formats.

Temp LLD



Temp HLD


Perm LLD


Perm HLD


Temp Sarn (40)


Perm Sarn (40)


Let me know what you disagree with or think I missed out.

i find it hilarious and baffling that someone who quit playing comes back when the game is at a much worse state... to do pvp, when pvp is in such an amazingly bad state.

there's a reason why forum pvp was mentioned and that half+ of us in this subforum haven't even been playing (i haven't since harb, for instance).

i get walking away from poe and i get keeping a foot in the door in case it gets fixed/returns to a better state (it's what i'm basically doing, for instance), but returning in this shit state for hellacious pvp (enjoy the zerphi's vd) just seems ridiculous. but hilarious, so i'll be sure to check this subforum for the results.

I love how all the HLD players here constantly shit on their own PvP balance yet somehow find it STILL a better alternative to LLD. Like come the fuck on all of you already scream about how OP and unbalanced shit is now with one shots, you honestly think the general population will appreciate spending 10-30 ex just to one shot each other?

Because all the stuff us HLD'ers are complaining about could easily have been prevented from happening if GGG had thought, even for a second, about how skill gems and items could affect PVP, and if they'd kept on implementing TValues for skills. We aren't the PVE community: we have valid complaints, and we have reasons for complaining.

There's no point in thinking about what could have been. Even during the LLD season GGG fucked up in balancing. My point now is the best thing we can do for PvP to actually get any attention from GGG is if we can increase the playerbase, and the best way to increase playerbase is through limited temp league LLD.

PT's old temp league events had the lowest barrier of entry in both currency and time. If we get more traction in those events and get more players, that will help us convince GGG that PvP is worth investing in. Standard LLD and even HLD balance will come with more players.

Most of the votes are for perm league, which is downright retarded. I love trying to perfect a build, but there's no way in hell PvP can grow if we focus there. I don't care LLD or HLD at this point, but it has to be temp league for any meaningful growth.

I feel like it might be worth asking a more general population the same question. Every single person who actives in this forum is biased, asking a more general group of people would probably give significantly different results. Though, asking reddit anything regarding PvP is basically asking for brain damage.

If you want to please the players who are already playing PvP then a focus on high level would definitely be better. But I genuinely think low level, especially with the restrictions PT had in place last time, is the best way to engage people who aren't already playing. Low level is also significantly easier to restrict, as there's less shit to deal with. And most of the people agree on what should and shouldn't be banned. I imagine you'd have a hard time getting everyone in high level to agree to a specific rule-set.

save us PT..im a belieber

People... Please stop suggesting temp leagues, or to ask/poll the borader audiences... They've already proven they don't play pvp even when GGG caters to them. Let us enjoy what we actually enjoy, FFS.

just sayin' - but pvp is/can be cross league.