[3.8] A Shocking Elementalist, Lightning Tendrils CwC Arc - All Content - Budget version included

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Swiks wrote:

For the Hypothermia questions, the Beacon of Ruin node of the Elementalist means that any Cold hit will Chill any monster for 4s, even the end game bosses. And also, any hit and not only Cold, will Chill during the Chilling Conflux.
Hypothermia gives 39% more Damage with Hits and Ailments against Chilled Enemies, making it one of the best Support Gem for a lot of Elementalist builds.

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fluxofwar wrote:

The problem with Hypothemia is it looks good on paper, but practically it's not as effective as you think. Because you use Elemental Focus in your main links, you are not shocking for the chilling conflux and you're not chilling on the shocking conflux, you are only shocking while chilling for 2 seconds of the 14 second cycle. Using your PoB you have the following dps breakdown across the 14 second cycle:

- 1.3mil combined dps for 4 seconds when the chilling conflux is active
- 1.5mil combined dps for 4 seconds when the shocking conflux is active
- 0.9mil combined dps for 4 seconds when the igniting conflux is active
- 2.3mil combined dps for 2 seconds when the combined conflux is active

[(1.3mil*4sec)+(1.5mil*4sec)+(0.9mil*4sec)+(2.3mil*2sec)]/14sec = 1.38mil dps average, and a total of 19.4 million damage done over 14 seconds.

For sure there is an argument for things not taking 14 seconds to kill, but essentially you're averaging out your damage between shock and chill confluxes and for around 30% of the time you play you are essentially playing on a 5L and at worst playing on a 4L for another 30% of your time, meaning you get the benefit of your full 6L dps for 40% of the total play time.

Now if you drop Elemental Focus and Hypothermia and replace them with Controlled Destruction and Lightning Penetration you're at 1.8mil combined dps regardless of conflux status, 100% of the time. Just my 2c.

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Swiks wrote:

That's why there is a 4L Orb of Storm with Unbound Ailments that is keeping the Chill and Shock up during all the fight

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SleepThieff wrote:

Flux's point was that chill isn't up 100% of the time, because you can only chill for 6 of the 14 seconds throughout Beacon's cycle. Essentially, this means that Hypothermia inflicts NO DAMAGE for about 8 seconds per rotation (maybe it's closer to 7 if you have enough chill duration, but that's stretching it).

Flux is proposing that, instead of using Hypothermia, which is only attributing to damage 42% of the time (6 of the 14 second cycle), why not use something more consistent like Lightning Penetration, which will contribute 100% of the time?

I played this build for quite a few weeks on HC and I will admit that the most difficult part of this build was heavy hp/resistant single targets (where lightning pen shines). This build does not need more clear speed. Lightning pen sounds like a fine swap.

Thanks for your input Flux.

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Swiks wrote:

I think you are misunderstanding something, with the Elementalist's Beacon of Ruin, "Chills from your Hits always Slow by at least 10%" : any Cold hit will Chill regardless of Conflux/Crit/Resistances...
Even a 1 Cold damage non-crit hit will Chill Uber Elder with a 10% minimum slow for the full duration (2 sec, make that 3 sec if it's from the Orb of Storm)

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Swiks wrote:

"Chills inflicted by hits last for 2 seconds." From the Wiki. 3 sec with Orb of Storm because Unbound Ailments gives around 50% inc duration (depending on quality) so 2*(1 + 0.50). The 0.3sec is when you freeze an enemy, it stays chilled for 0.3s after the freeze ends

Thanks for the feedback anyway, it shows that the guide wasn't clear enough on that part, I will try to improve the Chill and Hypothermia interaction.