[3.x][Super Heavy Heavy Strike] 2H HS Jug - All Content

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jphillipspd wrote:
I have all gear and gems and I'm leveling up to this build.
However, I am struggling with mana issues. I seem to always be running out of mana.

Is this because of my level or am I missing some mechanic that is to keep mana up?


In my experience, using a mana leech weapon unique like the one outlined in the OP was enough. If it's very early, then you have to flask. Basically take mana leech node and use the weapon and it'll be enough. The problem tends to take care of itself once you do more damage.
Helms besides the abyssus with the double damage enchant. Because that helm and enchant is crazy expensive so any other suggestions. That is comparable.
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GueRakun wrote:
ZaeN, thanks for the reply. I have another question, it'll be a while til I can afford a Starforge (after manually 6 linking my Brassdome). So my plan is to map to level and do some Uber Lab farming to be able to afford it.

1. I have an Added Fire Damage support instead of Brutality as Brutality will make lose dps because a lot of my dps is elemental right now from Hatred and Herald of Ash. Is there something better? PoB said I could use Faster Attack but it's green and I don't want to mess up my color.

2. My gear and tree right now is on my active char, let me know if there's a direction I should take to upgrade (I have about 1 ex and like 50c to do an immediate upgrade) apart from what I outlined in my plan).


6L doomsower has a very negligible difference than 5L starforge. Not sure how it fares, but instead of ele auras, dome + determination + abyssus + vuln should give you both tank and fat dmg :)

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jphillipspd wrote:
I have all gear and gems and I'm leveling up to this build.
However, I am struggling with mana issues. I seem to always be running out of mana.

Is this because of my level or am I missing some mechanic that is to keep mana up?


What level are you? Mana issue is typical during acts when using tabula, you don't need anything more than a 3-4L to complete the 10 acts

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Bruxieus wrote:
Helms besides the abyssus with the double damage enchant. Because that helm and enchant is crazy expensive so any other suggestions. That is comparable.


Abyssus without enchant :)
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Last edited by ZaeN on Jan 19, 2018, 7:55:00 PM
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ZaeN wrote:

6L doomsower has a very negligible difference than 5L starforge. Not sure how it fares, but instead of ele auras, dome + determination + abyssus + vuln should give you both tank and fat dmg :)


Does it make a difference where I put my Heavy Strike? I am just going to skip 5 or 6 linking my Londo because I have a 6L Brass Dome, putting my Warchief Totem on my Kondo with 4L. Is there anything I am missing?

Yeah I was playing with PoB numbers, doing Hatred and Herald of Ash only gives me about +7k DPS compared to Brutality (with everything else pure physical bonus). Meanwhile with Brutality as a Gem, I can use Determination (only other good option is Haste but we're already attacking fast and moving fast as is) to get my armor up to 50kish and gives me 90% physical reduction which is crazy good. Plus I can set my Blasphemy Curse to Vulnerability like yours (any other curse doesn't really make sense).

I am going to try to farm Uber Lab tonight so I am going to buy Abyssus but I'm not going to use it til I have enough phat life. Only other thing I'd do is use Blood Rage like the other poster in CWDT, but probably will swap it with Molten Shell for going through Lab traps.

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GueRakun wrote:
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ZaeN wrote:

6L doomsower has a very negligible difference than 5L starforge. Not sure how it fares, but instead of ele auras, dome + determination + abyssus + vuln should give you both tank and fat dmg :)


Does it make a difference where I put my Heavy Strike? I am just going to skip 5 or 6 linking my Londo because I have a 6L Brass Dome, putting my Warchief Totem on my Kondo with 4L. Is there anything I am missing?

Yeah I was playing with PoB numbers, doing Hatred and Herald of Ash only gives me about +7k DPS compared to Brutality (with everything else pure physical bonus). Meanwhile with Brutality as a Gem, I can use Determination (only other good option is Haste but we're already attacking fast and moving fast as is) to get my armor up to 50kish and gives me 90% physical reduction which is crazy good. Plus I can set my Blasphemy Curse to Vulnerability like yours (any other curse doesn't really make sense).

I am going to try to farm Uber Lab tonight so I am going to buy Abyssus but I'm not going to use it til I have enough phat life. Only other thing I'd do is use Blood Rage like the other poster in CWDT, but probably will swap it with Molten Shell for going through Lab traps.



Abyssus inc dmg taken comes after mitigation.

It means that if you mitigate 90% dmg, you take: 10% dmg without abyssus, 15% dmg with abyssus.

So, you must put abyssus on ASAP, and to do that, you need to put determination, and to put determination, you need to drop hatred, put brutality and so on

So, to get back to beginning, abyssus + brutality + determination + vuln surely beats ele auras in dmg and tankiness
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Last edited by ZaeN on Jan 19, 2018, 10:18:14 PM
Yep I'm putting Determination now, but it's not good to farm Uber Lab with it right? with its increased damage? I'm just 4.9k hp now, probably will try Uber Lab soon.

What about the other question regarding 5 linking weapon? Is it so that Warchief Totem can do more damage? Because I already 6L my Heavy Strike in my chest piece.
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GueRakun wrote:
Yep I'm putting Determination now, but it's not good to farm Uber Lab with it right? with its increased damage? I'm just 4.9k hp now, probably will try Uber Lab soon.

What about the other question regarding 5 linking weapon? Is it so that Warchief Totem can do more damage? Because I already 6L my Heavy Strike in my chest piece.


Linking your weapon is unnecessary if you got a 6L brassdome because it is not your final one, linking a starforge instead makes totally sense

The logic was: 5L weapon -> spam fuse on chest while keeping 5L on weapon


Put devoto helmet in lab for tankiness and speed, check this video I made specifically to show jug in unberlab, it is made with 5 links brassdome devoto and a doomsower, exactly what you have even less, izaro goes down, traps do no dmg https://youtu.be/iaBPQTTcqR4
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Last edited by ZaeN on Jan 19, 2018, 11:48:22 PM
Thanks for the replies man.. I just got a quite well rolled Doomsower for 1 chisel, and then I 5 linked it. They're some dps increase as well as is for the weapon, but now my Totem can help deal damage as well. Yeap I watched all your videos, trying to learn the melee class with this tanky JUGG that deals awesome damage :)
Thanks for the quick replies build is working out nice, i have been using the Impresence Onyx Amulet for free vulnerability, working out very nice. Added arctic armour but still not sure if that's the best one to add.
Thanks for creating the build!

Just started leveling and so far looks good. However quick question, you mentioned in the guide that to get the 2x Weight of the Empire ASAP, but looking at the tree, first jewel does not get the required 40STR until 65 points in, and the other jewel does not get the required str at all.

Am I missing something?

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