Path of Nerfs

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Sardekar wrote:

When they nerf based only on the 1% and the strongest of the strong builds, they make the game a lot less fun for everyone wanting to play in any other way, while the 1% will simply find the new meta and continue to abuse mechanics as best they can.

^This

Mic drop..

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DrAssclown wrote:

Last sentence is important. I have been looking through tons of pages on this thread. The majority of comments in favor of this have 0-2 supporter titles. The majority of players who dislike this have 3-8 supporter titles. Seems like the player base that dislikes this stuff are the paying consumers. I would start to listen to them fast. I mean unless GGG staff are such haters of the filthy casuals and so hardcore themselves they will develop the game without being paid just to show how hardcore they really are.

What if i dont want to show it off? What if i didnt buy a supporter pack but rather straight 500 premium tabs?

And tbh, this "whine" we can see every single new update. And you know what? playerbase was always getting higher and higher. Also the earnings of GGG went up after each of these whine threads. And most likely you and the other whiners will still play the game and after a while completely forget about what you whined about, just like every1 else who whined about double dipping nerfs, ES nerfs and such.

Imo GGG will just laugh at every little whiner post bcause they know how little it actually matters.

This game needs more nerfs. I will be buying another supporter pack after the holidays.

Ahoy

Wasn't expecting the team to pick the AoE nerf over damage regarding Dark Pact, as someone threaded here before, seems senseful otherwise.

On the same line, for what it counts, the removal of the Critical Strike Chance on Doomfetch is counterproductive, since it concerns the flat values on weapon - forcing crit-out-ranger Ascendancies to maintain consistency or tree over-reaching.

Vaal Pact decision seems as harsh as the ES nerf last league, which makes it easy to understand how some players might feel - gameplay keystones are too impactful for that kind of expression, you should ease on these. Tho to be expected.

o/

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TheFearlessOne wrote:

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DrAssclown wrote:

Last sentence is important. I have been looking through tons of pages on this thread. The majority of comments in favor of this have 0-2 supporter titles. The majority of players who dislike this have 3-8 supporter titles. Seems like the player base that dislikes this stuff are the paying consumers. I would start to listen to them fast. I mean unless GGG staff are such haters of the filthy casuals and so hardcore themselves they will develop the game without being paid just to show how hardcore they really are.

What if i dont want to show it off? What if i didnt buy a supporter pack but rather straight 500 premium tabs?

And tbh, this "whine" we can see every single new update. And you know what? playerbase was always getting higher and higher. Also the earnings of GGG went up after each of these whine threads. And most likely you and the other whiners will still play the game and after a while completely forget about what you whined about, just like every1 else who whined about double dipping nerfs, ES nerfs and such.

Imo GGG will just laugh at every little whiner post bcause they know how little it actually matters.

wrong you plebeian

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TheFearlessOne wrote:

Also the earnings of GGG went up after each of these whine threads.

Each whine thread, the earnings of GGG go up more quickly than the previous ones. We receive overwhelming feedback (including from top whiners) that this process should be made longer. We're going to be careful though, and just adjust it a bit at a time. In 3.1.0, this takes the form of small additional earnings penalties...

Grinding gear games creates the meta builds that they then nerf by ignoring the many skills that have been left unchanged and terrible by comparison, they use the same excuses every patch that said mechanics are overpowered, blah blah blah and said builds are too overplayed yet diversity through improvements to several skills get ignored each and every patch,,what i find frustrating is a large majority of the player base never abuse the items or skills that get nerfed yet almost without fail their endgame choices continue to shrink because of the 1% crying for the nerfes,,wich by the way is ironic because most of those players can simply buy their way through changes with better gear,most notably the streamers and ultra rich playerbase. All in all the game seems to be balanced around the 1% percentiles who have unlimited resources, positive changes never match up to the negative ones,,cant wait to hear the next (this is a buff) tall tale you guys come up with.

The problem isn't in nerfing Vaal Pact. The problem is the lack of defensive mechanics in the end-game for the masses. I mean that you can achieve okay armour or evasion numbers for SOME builds, but only for some. Evasion is not crap on its own - it works well when you have lots of it + capped dodge & spelldodge (though I think dodge is a dirty hack dictated by "evasion being crap"). Armour also isn't crap considering the average % of incoming physical damage, it also works when you have 60-80k of it. Block is also OK when it's capped. Even regen is good with a 4k regen trollbuild.

But how many builds can really use something of this? A little. That's why everyone needs VP and that's what should be fixed...

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GrimSteelsmith wrote:

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zaklanoceljade wrote:

Many of you sound so disappointed with these nerfs as if your boss is cutting your salary in half or somebody burned down your car. I mean this is just a game! FFS! I've spent hundreds of hours in POE and it's a way to relax after work, chill out during weekends. It's not a way of life. And these nerfs certainly don't make the game unplayable. So man up little cry babies!

GGG, thanks for this update. Looking forward to the full patch notes. And can't freakin' wait for the start of Abyss League!

Just a game haha.. [Removed by Support] Some people, like myself.. Is actually trying to enojy the experience of the game, while pushing for endgame... imagine sinking a smaller fortune into something that you want to play.. and then see it get nerfed into obvlivion... Not so enjoyable anymore huh.. [Removed by Support]

Some of your text was removed by GGG Support. I'm guessing it was something not very nice. I hope nothing offensive on my behalf!
Yes. This is just a game. It's not the air you breathe, not the water you drink, it doesn't pay your bills, it's not the meaning of life. What makes you think I don't enjoy the experience of the game? I don't have to imagine "sinking a smaller fortune" because I spent quite a lot of money on this game. It could be nothing for you but I highly doubt that. And still this is just a game for me that serves a purpose to make me have fun.

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TheFearlessOne wrote:

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DrAssclown wrote:

Last sentence is important. I have been looking through tons of pages on this thread. The majority of comments in favor of this have 0-2 supporter titles. The majority of players who dislike this have 3-8 supporter titles. Seems like the player base that dislikes this stuff are the paying consumers. I would start to listen to them fast. I mean unless GGG staff are such haters of the filthy casuals and so hardcore themselves they will develop the game without being paid just to show how hardcore they really are.

What if i dont want to show it off? What if i didnt buy a supporter pack but rather straight 500 premium tabs?

And tbh, this "whine" we can see every single new update. And you know what? playerbase was always getting higher and higher. Also the earnings of GGG went up after each of these whine threads. And most likely you and the other whiners will still play the game and after a while completely forget about what you whined about, just like every1 else who whined about double dipping nerfs, ES nerfs and such.

Imo GGG will just laugh at every little whiner post bcause they know how little it actually matters.

Because noone buys 500 straight prem tabs. Noone. You buy supporter pack for nice MTX, for the forum title, bragging right and you also get the points. And THEN you spend points on prem tabs.

But yes - noobs like the nerf because then they are not such noobs anylonger. Anyone who really invested into the game and has few builds with acuity or whatnot - now we all have to see GGG destroy yet another few of our builds.

You put time, money, energy into creating a character over couple months just to see it gutted at a whim by GGG. Yes, I DONT LIKE IT.

Will i buy another support pack? Probably. I was gonna buy the green portal one for 160, and I still prbly will - but not now, at the end. If at all.

And again - i dont understand why some items stay legacy forever like kaoms heart, while other items are nerfed retroactively.... Who decides?

I mean GGG is owner of the game, but it seems that there are many unhappy players. I could care less about nerfs in the upcoming league - that only makes everything and everybody on a same level playing field. It is the destruction of Acuity and other items in standard, destroying already completed builds - that is my problem.