[3.3 Raider] Muirey's 2h Freezing Cyclone - Raider Edition!

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Muirey wrote:

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treirk wrote:
Third day reporting, now im level 71, i got 3.2K hp, res capped, i bought some items included darkray boots and i can tell that for now i dont have problems mapping.

Edit: And im not using Fortify anymore in cyclone, with cyclone i got more survivality but i dont die i dont use it

Off-topic: i got my first exalt yaaaay


Good to hear, like I said when we were chatting yesterday I almost never get to maps before 70 and definitely not at 66 heh. You had a question right before servers went down on Hezmana's vs Kaom's and as I was responding servers crashed! The answer I was going to give at the time was regarding....



I don't know why I always forget about this god damn sword. Maybe because I was trying to move away from RT pre-3.1 and it wouldn't work for that build but this sword is AMAZING to use. Sword nodes are along our path as well. As for Hezmana's vs Kaom's it really depends on price. Hezmana's seems to be more expensive at the start of a league and is slightly better than Kaom's but Kondo's actually beats both.

Grat's on that Exalt ;D

Side note, I see you took iron reflexes. If it seems to be working for you by all means continue using but I would suggest again to watch or read a few explanations on how armor works versus all the other types of defensive stats.

Demigodkinglol has a quick explanation video on it where he explains it well




I get irion reflexes for try it, i saw your changes on sword and nodes but i dont take it thinking that u was only trying it, not including in definitive version, now im gonna copy and paste again ur build
If what you're using works just keep at it. I had Kondo's drop and figured I'd try it out. It's 2 alch to buy so not that big a deal if you do want to use it. Don't feel ya need to follow what I'm doing exactly as I level up. However you get to the end goal of Disfavour(or some abyss weapon combo) is upto you.

I also used to use Iron reflexes and it worked fine... until reaching like.. t8 and beyond. Things just start hitting harder and harder the higher you go and armour unfortunately doesn't scale well.
Not sure about the map bosses, but the Abyss bosses definitely seem off or we need Chaos resist just to safely tank them. I feel bad for HC players going into those fights. I may try them again when at low XP, but only going to clear the Abyss map up to them otherwise.

Ah, I forgot about Hatred calculations. The other route may be safer for the extra freeze, but yea, I'll switch those out. And I got my guides mixed up regarding reflect. Was looking at another build that said Ele Reflect maps was not possible. But with a Lament, Pantheon, and that passive.. you have 75% reduced reflect damage. And just swapping gloves will make it 90/10 to 40/60 in favor of phys. Then Hatred would just be a swap on top of that, so no Regrets needed. I got a Lament drop, so I may try again on the next reflect map I get with VP. I had one on an un-id rare map.. seemed doable after I died to reflect.. if I had the Lament and more HP at the time, but hard for me to avoid spinning into density with high movement speed. It is like bowling and intentionally missing pins, lol.

Interesting about the Kondo. I'm already at a negative value for the axe, so I may just level up to 8x with axes tonight and then try it with VP. Then I can keep using BM and ignoring my mana pool. Plus I need about 5 more Regrets to change everything over >.<.. But why Blade Master over Razor's Edge? The extra bleed chance means better chance of 50% damage from Kondo and +1 range to Cyclone. The bleed and range would be the biggest reasons for me to switch to swords from Hez axe.
Muirey, for 5 links what recommend, im using , cyclone + hypothermia + elemental dmg + melee phys dmg + elemental proliferation
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blackdeath101 wrote:
But why Blade Master over Razor's Edge? The extra bleed chance means better chance of 50% damage from Kondo and +1 range to Cyclone. The bleed and range would be the biggest reasons for me to switch to swords from Hez axe.


I was switching out of Hatchet Master so I was losing attack speed and wanted it back. Razor's edge is only 3 points and 76-79 goes by really fast so it didn't seem that big a deal to get it afterwards. I am thinking of removing Spirit void to see how single target mana is at this stage which frees up 2 points as well.
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Added Five Link suggestion in Skill Gem spoiler.

Finally get to sit down today and play! Mondays always busy heh.


Edit: Oh also for chaos resist there is the new Pantheon Minor soul "Soul of Shakari" which with the secondary being Immune to poison that'll probably be the one I run always while mapping. Full Ascendancy, Deaths Door boots and that Pantheon soul we'll actually be immune to every secondary effect unless I'm not remembering one.
Last edited by Muirey on Dec 11, 2017, 4:56:26 PM
hi bro , your build is viable for shaper and guardians ? greetings. :9
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MoscaLoca1 wrote:
hi bro , your build is viable for shaper and guardians ? greetings. :9


Shouldn't be any issue, took them before VP change no problem. Grinding my way up there now to check off that box for 3.1.

If anything they will probably be easier. Build before with VP I did guardians/Shaper with just over 4k hp. We'll have much more than that now and won't get punished as much while avoiding their abilities.

and Hello. ;)
Last edited by Muirey on Dec 12, 2017, 12:29:02 AM
did cruel lab lvl 56, nice build, i would not have started this league if i didn't find this, gonnna go for the kondo's sword, got a 20c drop from abyss too :P

gear for cruel lab:
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Richu wrote:
did cruel lab lvl 56, nice build, i would not have started this league if i didn't find this, gonnna go for the kondo's sword, got a 20c drop from abyss too :P


Very nice! Yeah this league just spews out loot. Glad you're enjoying it and I'm happy it got you into the league. :D

Definitely recommend Kondo's, still can't believe I forgot about it. Still using it upto t9 so far and damage is still great. Need more god damn trials to spawn so I can get uber lab checked off the list. Damn you RNG!
Last edited by Muirey on Dec 12, 2017, 1:07:05 PM
Soo.. map tab hype anyone? Lol.. I was scared as hell when the first map that went in broke my game for about 10 minutes. I want to see a number for how many of those tabs have sold so far.. it was a cash cow waiting to happen and at $15 each, GGG is making hand over fist right now.

VP update: 84 and still chugging along. When I die, it is usually to explosive stuff or 1-shots. I can leech back really quick with all of the leech passives. Highest tier I've gotten and completed so far was T7 and I don't want to get into map buying yet. 2x extra movement speed Quicksilver flasks because.. Gotta go fast. Will probably switch to Devoto's and rare boots soon until corrupted Vectors with much higher HP/resists/WED rings/belt.

Also, still using Hez axe. Ended up burning my Regret stash and need to rebuild it before switching to swords. Disfavour is only 390 chaos atm :)

@Muirey - Possibly add a rare ring/amulet/belt stat priority with screenshots for the guide? Pandemonius doesn't exist yet in trade and Daresso and Bisco are a bit too expensive for this early in league. HP and resists are an obvious must with the unique count. But other stats like flat dmg, WED, phys dmg, etc to keep an eye out for.

Like this beauty I got as a drop that will get a missing resist mod when I re-do gear next:
Last edited by blackdeath101 on Dec 13, 2017, 10:54:00 AM

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