Changes to the Labyrinth

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The_Reporter wrote:

Awesome job, Turtle. :)

Indeed! Now I don't have to go through 46 pages to take in all the QQ. RIP mouse scroll wheel.



Edit: Double schadenfreude points due to it being a copy/paste from his list thread. Priceless.

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The_Reporter wrote:

He did it perfectly as a service to GGG.

Ah, I wasn't aware they needed help getting carpal tunnel.

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The_Reporter wrote:

It compiles the relevant posts for them to easily read all at once.

Sure because going through replies 10 at a time in an easy to read format is so much more time consuming and harder to get through. /s

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The_Reporter wrote:

You seem upset. Here, have a snickers.

The exciting mystery is what will he turn into after taking a bite of his Snickers?

Quite the contrary actually. All the QQ is glorious.

Careful guys, last time everyone made a big stink over laby ya'll were demanding a response and we got uber laby.

Keep it up and we might get a 5th. :P

I'm happy to see that so many people who share my hatred of the lab are stepping up and voicing their displeasure, and I really hope that GGG actually does something to make this an optional part of the game for those that enjoy it, rather than forcing it down our throats by gating a major part of character progression behind it (ascendancy).

On the other hand I'm also sad to see that (in an otherwise very friendly and helpful community) many of the people who do enjoy the lab also seem to be incredibly toxic human beings, and call people "noob" and "scrub" and say things like "git gud", when in fact most of us are neither "noobs" nor "scrubs" and have been playing the game for a long time and are plenty skilled. And many of these players also seem to enjoy the fact that other people are forced to do something they hate. I mean, what kind of sick person are you to revel in the displeasure of others? What if the shoe was on the other foot and the only way to gain ascendancy was to [insert your most hated game aspect here]? How would you feel then? I digress...

Are we able to complete the lab? YES. Do we enjoy it? The answer seems to be a resounding NO. All those people who are saying "remove lab" don't actually mean they want it removed from the game outright (that will never happen, so all the lab lovers can rest easy), what they want is to not be forced to do something they despise as an integral part to the building of their characters, and saying "remove it" is just an easy way to express their unhappiness with the system.

In conclusion, please please PLEASE GGG, give us another way to gain ascendancy and you will make a lot of people very, very happy.

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VigilanteCat wrote:

I'm happy to see that so many people who share my hatred of the lab are stepping up and voicing their displeasure

Been ongoing since Ascendancy, nothing new. lol

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VigilanteCat wrote:

On the other hand I'm also sad to see that (in an otherwise very friendly and helpful community) many of the people who do enjoy the lab also seem to be incredibly toxic human beings, and call people "noob" and "scrub" and say things like "git gud", when in fact most of us are neither "noobs" nor "scrubs" and have been playing the game for a long time and are plenty skilled.

Well, to be fair, in a lot of those cases it's really a l2p issue. If you're coming to the forums to rage post "fuck the lab, izaro 1 shot me" then you probably need to "git gud". :P

Also, your existing skills are irrelevant if you're tackling new content that has mechanics that you don't understand. And some have shown they are unwilling to learn or even try.

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VigilanteCat wrote:

What if the shoe was on the other foot and the only way to gain ascendancy was to [insert your most hated game aspect here]? How would you feel then? I digress...

I'd man-up and beat that shit. Or I'd go play something else if it was too big of an issue to move past. But I wouldn't linger here for any extended period of time trying to change a game I no longer play.

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VigilanteCat wrote:

All those people who are saying "remove lab" don't actually mean they want it removed from the game outright (that will never happen, so all the lab lovers can rest easy), what they want is to not be forced to do something they despise as an integral part to the building of their characters, and saying "remove it" is just an easy way to express their unhappiness with the system.

I think we already were "resting easy" on this one, this was the best chance for a major change to the laby system. But that didn't happen.

Shorter norm laby and less trials are fucking fantastic though!