Hey Mathil! Thanks for sharing all these builds.
I had a quick question about the magma orb build: How are you able to fire more than 1 projectile?
Anyhow, thanks again! the build is shaping out to be pretty fun and the animation is just gorgeous
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Posted bycalleungon Sep 29, 2017, 7:24:51 PM
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As I mentioned above - Mathil's "Ice Shot/Barrage Raider" build. Here is his video on Youtube:https:
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=Myr1kb3tIQ0&list=PLzqC5PPIWf1gfyTCBu1w3yY818r77vwvo&index=6&t=1s
As you can see he is instantly firing off multiple attacks at the exact same time, but how can he when he isn't using any ability that automatically fires them off. Is he using macros? If so, why doesn't he mention that? Does not make any sense. Any insight would be much appreciated. I am lvling it up and don't see how this is even possible. I really want someone to explain. Thanks so much for at least replying - been waiting like a week.
I really don't see him using multiple different attacks at the same time. It's also impossible to do diferent attacks at the same time due to how the game is designed, even if you were to use a macro. What is possible is activating all flasks at the same time, but that's just pressing at buttons at once.
He uses 2 different attacks. The ice shot, linked to GMP and Chain is what causes all the projectiles and mass explosions. That 1 attacks fires 5-7 arrows at the same time, which then chain 2 times between enemies. The barrage is the single target attach which just shows a tight stream of arrows towards 1 enemie. So it may be that you are confusing the ice shot as using multiple attacks at the same time, but it isn't, it's part of the skill gem setup.
Does this answer ur question?
If not, please be a bit more specific and profide a timestamp of when you see this happening, and a descritpion of what you see as multiple attacks at the same time.
You totally answered my question. That makes total sense. So, he is using Barrage on single target bosses and alternating between Barrage and his AOE setup to clear trash. Okay thanks. I saw those icespikes popping with everything freezing and little circular explosions popping. However, at lvl 40, my cold shot looks totally different. I dont see everything on the map instantly freezing constantly or those circular explosions blowing up. It seemed from his video that he has more going off than simply Cold Shot. What causes those explosions to go off and why does everything freeze almost 100% of the time? Passives? Gear?
Thanks sooooooo much for your reply. I really really really appreciate it buddy :)
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Posted byI_Heart_Uon Sep 30, 2017, 12:23:38 AM
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You totally answered my question. That makes total sense. So, he is using Barrage on single target bosses and alternating between Barrage and his AOE setup to clear trash. Okay thanks. I saw those icespikes popping with everything freezing and little circular explosions popping. However, at lvl 40, my cold shot looks totally different. I dont see everything on the map instantly freezing constantly or those circular explosions blowing up. It seemed from his video that he has more going off than simply Cold Shot. What causes those explosions to go off and why does everything freeze almost 100% of the time? Passives? Gear?
Thanks sooooooo much for your reply. I really really really appreciate it buddy :)
You're welcome. Good this clears things up.
The freezing comes mostly from his high crit chance. Critical shots that deal ice damage freeze enemies. He also has some %chance to freeze on gem (Ice Bite) and % chance for status ailment on tree.
Explosions come from Herald of Ice, which causes frozen enemies to explode on death dealing AOE cold damage.
That shattering sound when killing a frozen enemie is by many considered the most amazing sound in game, and makes this build very fun to play with.
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Posted byFritsoon Sep 30, 2017, 1:00:41 AM
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Regarding the Ice Shot/Barrage build.
For anyone using a 6L ice shot setup, I found the Increased Crit Strikes gem to work much better for mapping than the cold pen recommended by Mathil.
Whilst Cold Pen does give higher dps when you have your diamond flask up, the crit gem wins when you don't have that flask up (at least according to PoB with my gear). Also, the crit gem allows for much more reliable crits and thus freezes, making mapping much safer en enjoyable (icesplosions ftw). The crit strikes gem also makes Ice Shot have lower manna consumption 51 vs 63 with cold pen, so helps a bit if you run out of mana often.
Also, for anyone looking for a cheaper and tankier alternative to +1 Darkray Vectors, use a corrupted +1 frenzy Kaom's Roots. They are super cheap, give you 600 extra life and stun immunity. You do lose some damage and a chunk of movespeed though. So for general mapping Darkrays are better. Definately Kaom's for Guardian/Shaper though.
Thanks for the tip with Increased Critical Strikes gem. More crits, more fun! :D
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Posted byLaijnuzon Sep 30, 2017, 7:43:13 PM
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Hi Mathil!
Ran into your Scorching ray trickster and am trying it out. Way cool, love it so far (still in the story, will be a while nefore I hit maps).
Just one comment:
I like having a totem to draw some attention away from me. And for this, the searing bond totem is working wonders. It also allow me to damage the boss while kiting if I place them right. And if I need to flee, I drop one and the follower keeps burning while chasing me. Very nice addition as all my skill points also benefit SB.
Have fun and good drops,
SB
May your maps be bountiful, exile
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Posted bySisterBlisteron Oct 2, 2017, 2:54:29 PM
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Hey guys, can u tell me what i doing wrong with cold build, couse my damage from barrage against shaiper is like 800k dps: https://pastebin.com/TXeLs6fN
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Posted byrndt_ton Oct 4, 2017, 4:24:00 AM
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Hey guys, can u tell me what i doing wrong with cold build, couse my damage from barrage against shaiper is like 800k dps: https://pastebin.com/TXeLs6fN
Well:
- Use 6L barrage setup with slightly different gems (ele focus instead of cold pen)
- Dying Sun flask
- +2 Barrage enchant on helmet
- 2 more lvls to get Winter Spirit Node
Boom, you're now at 3.58m Shaper DPS. My guess is though that you won't have Onslaught and power charges up for Shaper, so I disabled them in the Config. That still puts you at 3.06m Shaper deeps. Here's the adjusted PoB: https://pastebin.com/9EskjnLA
For more possible changes, you can use My PoB as reference. Gear is by no means perfect, but I'm just over 5m Shaper dps:
https://pastebin.com/fbgwNGnQ
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Posted byFritsoon Oct 4, 2017, 6:04:26 AM
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Hey can someone have a look at my ICESHOT build?
I don't know how to improve on this character.
https://pastebin.com/XSdeV9Rn
Last edited by Norrie13c on Oct 4, 2017, 8:19:29 AM
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Posted byNorrie13con Oct 4, 2017, 8:19:14 AM
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Hey can someone have a look at my ICESHOT build?
I don't know how to improve on this character.
https://pastebin.com/XSdeV9Rn
Well, you're not using Chin Sol in offhand for barrage, and a +2 Barrage Proj helmet. Start there.
Also, 4.5k life is 'a bit' low. Get better life on gear, skill tree, and jewels.
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Posted byFritsoon Oct 4, 2017, 9:43:51 AM
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Hey guys, can u tell me what i doing wrong with cold build, couse my damage from barrage against shaiper is like 800k dps: https://pastebin.com/TXeLs6fN
Well:
- Use 6L barrage setup with slightly different gems (ele focus instead of cold pen)
- Dying Sun flask
- +2 Barrage enchant on helmet
- 2 more lvls to get Winter Spirit Node
Boom, you're now at 3.58m Shaper DPS. My guess is though that you won't have Onslaught and power charges up for Shaper, so I disabled them in the Config. That still puts you at 3.06m Shaper deeps. Here's the adjusted PoB: https://pastebin.com/9EskjnLA
For more possible changes, you can use My PoB as reference. Gear is by no means perfect, but I'm just over 5m Shaper dps:
https://pastebin.com/fbgwNGnQ
all that is true, but mathil have no 6l or helmet enchant but his dps is about 1.7mill, how ?)
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Posted byrndt_ton Oct 4, 2017, 2:31:59 PM
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