[2.6] SignalShot™ CI Full Ele Conversion TS/Barrage / Shaper & Uber Deathless / with video!

"
Rupenus wrote:
"
Sorry rupenus,

I dont understand the dps point part.
Can you just tell me if Brood twine is better than a legacy reach?
Please and thank you.



tl;dr ->
yes, brood twine has around 60-65% better dps than leg reach.(number of arrows dps buff of reach has taken into calculations)

example of the calculation i did
Spoiler

if you have 400 dps, 9% crit bow and 8 arrows,

it is better than 360 pdps leg reach,

it is simply;

harbinger vs leg reach


(400 x 1,5 x 8) vs (360 x 12):

(base DPS x crit difference x number of arrows) vs (DPS x number of arrows)

4800 vs 4320

binger is better.


brood twine vs reach

so let's make it for brood twine vs leg reach,
Spoiler

10 arrows, perfect gear; (608 pdps x 1.56 x 10) = brood twine = 9480;
14 arrows, perfect gear; (370 x 14) = almost perfect roll reach = 5180;

as you can see there is a 70%-80 difference in between, brood twine has crit multi but leg reach has better base attack, the crit difference gets lower than as i calculated with basic math actually because of accuracy factor, so all in all in tooltip the difference gets 60-65%




The math is ok if u consider using same gem setup.
But with RotC I think is better to skip GMP and use

So critical chance jumps from 6 to 8, and some 110% increased strike chance. GMP is incorporated in RotC without the DPS penalty (-25%). So we now have same numbers of arrows, about same critical strike chance and a DPS (in my case) of 369 (which is equivalent to a 369/0.75 (25% less multiplier from GMP you use with harbringer) = 492 DPS harbringer).
I was using inc. crits with both Lioneyes and Reach while gearing up, but then realized that its still worse than most other support gems (PtL, EFocus, PPAD).
Last edited by Rivx on Jan 1, 2017, 9:09:56 AM
"
Rivx wrote:
Finally got both my bow and chest linked (3.5k fuses fml), should I use PCoC in both? I'm not going to do guardians until I replace a few more pieces to get a better ES pool so I don't exactly need more singletarget damage atm, but what setup should I be using for once I have everything sorted and farm for skyforth?



Btw does this build stand any chance of clearing grandmasters? I'd assume not even with the 'full elite' version since high APS, low penetration but idk.


with any 350+ pdps bow you can do it blindly, use lightning arrow(because it chains) pick herald of ash, put dying sun in action(for ash aoe), when you kill one others will die to overkill ignite damage.

if you are too scared to get near, LA has the best offscreen capabilities after ice shot(LA is still better because it chains)

i simply run that map as if it's a lvl 1 coast map.

i can demonstrate how i run the map in standard to anyone who wants(since i havent played this league)
"You have great power. You're right to be proud. It's unfortunate you have to die now, but I will honor you with 45% of my strength."
Last edited by Rupenus on Jan 1, 2017, 10:42:36 AM
removed
Last edited by Aedre on Jan 1, 2017, 10:58:09 AM
Posting again since I did not get reply earlier.

Which is the best gem to use in barrage setup with RoTC - inc crit chance or added fire dmg? My crit chance without inc crit gem is too low (around 45% with max pc).
"
Joe54 wrote:
Posting again since I did not get reply earlier.

Which is the best gem to use in barrage setup with RoTC - inc crit chance or added fire dmg? My crit chance without inc crit gem is too low (around 45% with max pc).


i dont have your gear, so can you tell me the dps with both? and your CC with ICC and without it?
"You have great power. You're right to be proud. It's unfortunate you have to die now, but I will honor you with 45% of my strength."
Last edited by Rupenus on Jan 1, 2017, 11:09:28 AM
"
Rupenus wrote:
"
Joe54 wrote:
Posting again since I did not get reply earlier.

Which is the best gem to use in barrage setup with RoTC - inc crit chance or added fire dmg? My crit chance without inc crit gem is too low (around 45% with max pc).


i dont have your gear, so can you tell me the dps with both? and your CC with ICC and without it?


Hey I checked my dps with both the gems at same level and it seems ICC gem offers more dps. Both gems were lvl 5 and at max power charges ICC gem gave me around 4-5k more tooltip dps than added fire gem. My CC with ICC(lvl 20) is 69% and without it its 45%.
Last edited by Joe54 on Jan 1, 2017, 12:08:30 PM
"
Joe54 wrote:
"
Rupenus wrote:
"
Joe54 wrote:
Posting again since I did not get reply earlier.

Which is the best gem to use in barrage setup with RoTC - inc crit chance or added fire dmg? My crit chance without inc crit gem is too low (around 45% with max pc).


i dont have your gear, so can you tell me the dps with both? and your CC with ICC and without it?


Hey I checked my dps with both the gems at same level and it seems ICC gem offers more dps. Both gems were lvl 5 and at max power charges ICC gem gave me around 4-5k more tooltip dps than added fire gem. My CC with ICC(lvl 20) is 69% and without it its 45%.


clearly ICC then : )
"You have great power. You're right to be proud. It's unfortunate you have to die now, but I will honor you with 45% of my strength."
Yo, im at level 88 now. Decent gear but i can't use 3 auras becuase i lacking mana :<

When i check at your gear, there is ofc a diffences between it becuase i don't got 1000 exalted orbs to spend on it. But how do we/i get more mana to use 3 auras and still be able to play the game without my pathfinder whine about " no mana. " :>

Thanks, check my profile for gear.
"
Rupenus wrote:
clearly ICC then : )


Thanks man and really a nice build : ) I just failed chimera (was my first try and I am noob - ripped to adds LOL) but man the damage was insane. If he did not have add phase and other such nonsense I guess I could have killed him in like 5-6 sec.

Report Forum Post

Report Account:

Report Type

Additional Info