GhazzyTV - Beginner's Build: Lich Queen Skeleton Summoner [AWAKENER FARMABLE]

@Messerschmitt:

I need patch notes & more information about Dark Pact, but from the current assumptions of the skill it will be a stand alone guide/build and not included to this one.

Thank you :) <3

my opinion of dark pact is honestly is that people will use scourge with it take minimal or easy minion nodes on the tree and then treat it as a normal spell / chaos build.


skeletons are not good clear speed. they never will be. and i cant help but notice how clunky it is to summon a few skeletons .. then use dark pact to kill things. it doesnt seem to have that feels good aoe that makes using the ED Contagen combo feel so good.

that being said .. i am willing to bet it will have pretty good single target once you have a wither totem and skeletons on a boss.


i am curious how sustainable the skill is on just life. you will have to fit leech in there somewhere .. probably via warlords mark.

hell you might want to use your srs baron concept of life stacking as a basis for such a build .

stack a shit load of str and life . get iron will and a kaoms with decent regen . . but use a scourge and .. hell maybe an oak or some other shield.

that or go hybrid and let an es bubble from geopheries and shaper's touch help with large hits while leech helps you manage the dark pact life loss underneath

@Saltychipmunk:

I was thinking that the abusing end of Minion Instability & proliferation together with beacon of corruption will arise, however it will depend on the skellies dying which should be slow no matter how we tweak it. (Spell Totem + Skellies takes time to get then they need to die /// If skellies turns in to channeling CWC only casts the spells every 0.35 sec at lvl 20 so same issue there)


Vaal Summon Skellies will be great vs bosses but general clear speed needs to be sorted without skellies I believe.

However, if they decide to increase dmg depending on the minion stats then Scourge claw & life based Baron will be top tier, which im serioulsy hoping for them not to do... :/

even now i feel just using the sourge is too good to pass up . between it , the witch ascendancy and the easy minion damage nodes ... you are already looking at 200% ish minion damage.


honestly , minion instability probably wont be a good idea . it made vague sense on really big meaty minions .. but at best skeletons have a dismal base hp pool to scale off of .. plus if you go MI you would then naturally have to invest a decent amount of links into the skeletons.


plus then you are extending your damage pool to elemental damage in addition to chaos .. which also means splitting possible curse investment needing EE etc.

it just seems too clunky when really you could just stick your skeletons in a +2 hat with minion life and an empower to get the chunkiest skeletons possible to scale dark pacts damage.

i doubt you would even take most of the + skeleton nodes on the tree either since the build maxes chains to i think 6 skeletons.

i would also not put skeletons on a totem.. just because the only time you will need more than like 2 or 3 skeletons is in breaches , really large packs or bosses. otherwise for trash clearing i really do feel this is going to a run it on life kind of deal.

then again we would need to know how durable we can make skeletons in end game .. it could just boil down to .. you need a constant casting source for them such as a totem.

@Saltychipmunk:

We'll see soon enough! :)

This is very mis-leading for me, So I really need 20 refund points so I can refund all my points so I can go do the totally different tree on from level 20-52 points? how the hell am i going to do that at level 20-52? I might as well delete this character thanks to how mis-leading that level 20 build completely is and how there is nowhere in the guide that I need to have at least 20 refund points available to do this build or more... not beginner friendly at all.

Yeah, reading this thread from the start the complaint about the respec tree has been mentioned over and over. It is not even necessary since we can level with SRS and what will be the actual tree, but until the OP mentions it more people will continue being 'tricked'.

That said I read this thread before starting the build so the different complaints about it alerted me, so perhaps reading the thread instead of just the first post would have helped.

@CedricDur
@darkedone02

Hey guys,

Generally the respec points available from the quests should be sufficient. However, as you've seen it has been mentioned a few times and this is something I want to avoid for 3.0.
All my build guides that will be brought in to 3.0 will be getting complete make-overs so that I can more easily update them properly. The reason of the respeccing was due to lvling as a summoner has been horribly ineffective, however, these days you can lvl super easy with SRS which means 0 respec points needed.

This build among a few others will be updated live on stream in the coming week before 3.0 release, and they'll be made sure to not include any misses such as this.

I hope the issues were not too big for you guys!

BUILD IS NOW UPDATED FOR 3.0 KEEP IN MIND THAT THE TREES ARE DESIGNED FOR 3.0 AND NOT 2.6 NOW!

Big change notes are:
Mage & melee variants enabled
Lvling section been optimized and made more clear


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Do notify me if there's anything that looks odd or needs attention!

Hi, I might be slow since I only started a week ago but what do you recommend for necklace/rings/helmet for this build, any stats we should be looking for? Thanks!