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@Dejuvenate

I don't mind criticism and feedback, it's very important for me to make better content.
But being called out for clickbaiting is close to my heart as I do my best to have as precise & accurate information as possible.
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Last edited by Nexeus on Aug 30, 2020, 7:05:41 AM
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Ghazzy wrote:
@Dejuvenate

I don't mind criticism and feedback, it's very important for me to make better content.
But being called out for clickbaiting is close to my heart as I do my best to have as precise & accurate information as possible.


Good thing you fixed the pob link on your first post mate. Cheers.

I understand you have tens of guides and its hard to keep track of all this. But that old pob kinda threw me off. Pretty sure that happened to more than me.
discord id: dejuvenate#5828
Guides
[3.13 Ritual] Flameslinger - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3009295
[3.5 Betrayal] Brutus AW Chieftain - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2320224
[3.4 Delve] Toxic Rain - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2207700
Guys I have been chatting with a friend of mine and I'm starting to be confused about the curses, atm if I have 2 curses from my animate guardian and 2 from myself with both of us having can apply an additional curse, would that be 4 curses on a target or would my 2 curses overwrite his 2 different curses??
Also, my understanding from the wiki is that 1 from A and 2 from B is not efficient as only 2 curses will be applied, and 2 curses from A and 2 from B using blasphemy overwrite each other, but does the curse from a skittle bot works as a blasphemy?
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Grekey wrote:
Guys I have been chatting with a friend of mine and I'm starting to be confused about the curses, atm if I have 2 curses from my animate guardian and 2 from myself with both of us having can apply an additional curse, would that be 4 curses on a target or would my 2 curses overwrite his 2 different curses??
Also, my understanding from the wiki is that 1 from A and 2 from B is not efficient as only 2 curses will be applied, and 2 curses from A and 2 from B using blasphemy overwrite each other, but does the curse from a skittle bot works as a blasphemy?


Hey,

This video I explain it a bit more in detail: https://youtu.be/JRK5AFbhd2M

TLDR:
You need your guardian to be able to apply 1 more curse than you are able to apply and only apply 1 curse.

Basically it's the same as if you played in a party with a friend and you curse 1 curse and your friend is able to apply 2 curses but only use 1 curse, then both of your curses would apply without getting overwritten. Obviously this isn't very efficient but for the AG to wear + to additional curse gear to the extent where he can apply 1 more than you and wear curse implicit gloves can be nice.

Another thing to point out is that it is by far not needed, that last lvl 10-12 curse is only applied when he hits the enemy which would only be fine vs bosses that has a 66% less curse effectiveness mechanic making that curse he applies barely do anything to start with :P
(It's just about maximizing a build to the extremes)
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Yeah I always view curses as the last thing you stack for that very reason.

Its why you should never choose say blasphemy vulnerability over maim blood and sand.

if its easy to add the curse then do it; if it is not then dont do it.

as it so happens adding a dual curse setup for a guardian is trivial. so do it.

Its when you go for 3 and 4 that the real diminishing returns hit. Especially if you dont have a super tanky guardian.

At the end of the day, the leg work is the skitter bots, EE and frost bomb with honorable mentions going to things like elemental army and awakened melee physical.

Got it!
Spoiler
I think I understand it now, so I hit with 2 curses, and then the guardian hit with 1, but doesn't cancel mine because he has the ability to apply 3, then when I hit with 2 curses after the guardian, his curse get canceled unless I have the ability to apply 3 curses... but I will only have the ability to apply 2 or I will have to lose a prefix on the body giving up es or life... right?

In other words, the guardian must always have the ability to apply the total number of curses intended to be applied in between you and him, even if he only applies one.

now... why elemental weakness and not assassins mark using Oskarm? After all the big dps come from the crits...? you could also use Cospri's Will to get the extra curse on the guardian for cheap and fix the chaos res from Oskarm... Beside all of that I was thinking of
because so far i have been using a
that clearly doesnt work, as i dont know how to have the guardian to apply 4 curses without changing the gloves...

bump - edit

no one was anwering, moved to it... dk if am i doing it right tho
Last edited by Grekey on Sep 2, 2020, 8:24:48 AM
You need to drop the gloves to get the 4th curse.

The gloves you replace them with would then need to be corrupted with a curse on hit.

So that is why you use ele weakness. because to get 4 curses you can use the assassins mark from oskarm.

So yeah you need a specific corruption on a specific pair of gloves with is going to cost you a pretty penny
Hey,

I tried the CI version of the build and I have to admit I'm having a realy rought time.
I think this build was, in terme of survivability, the worst I have experienced by far since Harbinger league. I think I must miss something because I don't realy see so much layer of defence except ES, res, and minion aggro.
Right now I'm stuck up in my leveling at lvl 92 for few day now, I die so often that every time I won 10% exp, I will lose it 1 or 2 map later. And the 4-6 level I'm missing would alow me to stat 2 extra medium cluster jewels.

Right now I have 7.6k ES and I got OS extremly frequently.

I don't think the problem come from my stuff :
Spoiler


I leave the PoB of my character : https://pastebin.com/U72F9pHm

If you guys have any advice or clues, I'm open to anything.

Note : I know I'm missing few items like the Discipline Aul (but I think you will understand that it takes some time in an almost dead league to get 25-30ex), or not having Unending Hunger. I'm still working on some part of the stuff.

Thanks in advance.
Last edited by LAGROSSESIMONE on Sep 3, 2020, 7:46:04 PM
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Hey,

I tried the CI version of the build and I have to admit I'm having a realy rought time.
I think this build was, in terme of survivability, the worst I have experienced by far since Harbinger league. I think I must miss something because I don't realy see so much layer of defence except ES, res, and minion aggro.
Right now I'm stuck up in my leveling at lvl 92 for few day now, I die so often that every time I won 10% exp, I will lose it 1 or 2 map later. And the 4-6 level I'm missing would alow me to stat 2 extra medium cluster jewels.

Right now I have 7.6k ES and I got OS extremly frequently.

I don't think the problem come from my stuff :
Spoiler


I leave the PoB of my character : https://pastebin.com/U72F9pHm

If you guys have any advice or clues, I'm open to anything.

Note : I know I'm missing few items like the Discipline Aul (but I think you will understand that it takes some time in an almost dead league to get 25-30ex), or not having Unending Hunger. I'm still working on some part of the stuff.

Thanks in advance.



So, this comes down to a very common problem I see people having with the high budget version of this build and I can't stress how important this is:

If you want to play a high budget build it is in more cases than not crucial that you have more than enough currency to achieve all items, in this specific build the Discipline Aul is among the most important ones for the sake of defences. On the other hand it is at the same time designed to be doing trumendous amounts of damage which makes the defence suffer and if you're then not doing that damage you will die in general but when it comes to Redemption Sentries the thing they lack the most is speed which we are solving with Torrent's belt as well as Unending Hunger making both VERY important for your minions to consistently kill enemies before they touch you. Since you don't have that I can fully understand why you sometimes get one shot as your spectres are not attacking directly.

Another solution for more agressive behaviour from the spectres is to use Feeding Frenzy instead of Deathmark that can help a LOT.


However, to try to solve your situation you do have a few options besides what has been stated;
Glancing Blows (Can easily achieved by using a Thread of Hope on the far left jewel slot) and switch Flesh Offering for Bone Offering, this with a Rumi's Concoction will pretty much cap your block even with Necromantic Aegis but you will obviously lose the extra speed granted by Flesh Offering which is not just for clear speed and comfort but also efficiency of your spectres will go down but you will have a bit tankier so there's that.


Just want to underline that I'm not trying to be rude but I do want to repeat myself that playing a high budget build will in almost every case require you to have all that is required for the build (or be able to afford it), this is because high budget builds are for the most part completely maximized to the very point where there is very little you can do to make it better and this is done by making the character be exactly on the res cap, exactly on the attribute requirements, this is to avoid having mods that are wasted so that we can utilize open mods on other slots that benefits other stats.
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