@GGG. blocking is broken in PvP and you gave us a GREEN gem to counter?

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VictorDoom wrote:
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Gorsz wrote:




And a lot of people dont use green gems in their 6 link. Are you saying every build without a green gem in their 6 link is inferior? LMAO Id put you on blast so fast and link your comment.


No because some builds like trappers, dont need block chance reduction.




You guys can find these outlier builds to prove a point all day long, but the fact remains MOST builds are countered by evasion/spell block to the point where GGG had to create the ONLY games PVP specific gem.


Why do you have to customize your entire build/gear/armor around this one single gem just to be able to PvP without people dodging/blocking all your attacks?
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You see, with that logic CwDT should be white.



Except CwDT is no where near as extreme, because guess what you dont use in your 6link attack. CwDT.
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Gorsz wrote:
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ಠ__ಠ wrote:
You see, with that logic CwDT should be white.



Except CwDT is no where near as extreme, because guess what you dont use in your 6link attack. CwDT.


Ever hear about CwDT + IC + EC + <insert mitigation/utility skill here> combo?
Try to go melee without that, tell me the results.
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Gorsz wrote:
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VictorDoom wrote:
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Gorsz wrote:




And a lot of people dont use green gems in their 6 link. Are you saying every build without a green gem in their 6 link is inferior? LMAO Id put you on blast so fast and link your comment.


No because some builds like trappers, dont need block chance reduction.




You guys can find these outlier builds to prove a point all day long, but the fact remains MOST builds are countered by evasion/spell block to the point where GGG had to create the ONLY games PVP specific gem.


Why do you have to customize your entire build/gear/armor around this one single gem just to be able to PvP without people dodging/blocking all your attacks?


Dude, YOU have to customize your entire build and gear, not everyone. Your build is simply not set out for pvp, thats it.

You have a counter, that you KNOW you can deal with in 1 support gem yet you refuse to use it and want to make it white.

Other people dont need that, other people can counter block/eva without BCR, other people have green support gems
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Last edited by VictorDoom on Feb 13, 2015, 2:03:26 PM


There is more than one way to skin the cat. Making this gem white is only one way to skin it, and I disagree with it.

However, I agree that I cannot PvP without this gem, and that it is ridiculous that I must consider it no matter what.

There is no reason a gem should be required for a build in the first place. However, this is nearly required by all PvP builds; the only non-blocking, non-dodging builds are two-hand melee builds. This gem is an automatic ~25% damage boost on EVERY build on about 95% of PvP matches.

Edit: I forgot about spell block not being a given. But still, many builds use spell block or spell dodge.

Therein lies the problem, in my opinion. There's no reason to NOT use this gem. I don't like nearly-mandatory gems. [/quote]



I agree with you your view on it, but what else do you suggest? They made it mandatory to use, yet its incredibly limiting with the color they made it.

Its either make the block reduction gem white, or nerf block/evasion for PvP. There ya go, thats the choices, or PvP will never be serious in this game.[/quote]

So basically nerf block in pvp because YOU cant win against a block char?[/quote]



I advocated making the block reduction gem white, so people have counter play to block/evasion without having to build/gear all around one gem just so you can land an attack on a player.

Either that, or nerf block/evasion for PvP. I figure making the block reduction gem white would be way more fair for everyone.




You guys can find these outlier builds to prove a point all day long, but the fact remains MOST builds are countered by evasion/spell block to the point where GGG had to create the ONLY games PVP specific gem.


Why do you have to customize your entire build/gear/armor around this one single gem just to be able to PvP without people dodging/blocking all your attacks?[/quote]

Dude, YOU have to customize your entire build and gear, not everyone. Your build is simply not set out for pvp, thats it.[/quote]


No, the vast majority HAS to have block reduction gem, or they will fail in PvP. So why should everyone have to customize all around one single gem that GGG introduced to make PvP actually tolerable?


Ive NEVER played a game with PvP where you had to have top of the line gear/be super UBER rich just to land an attack on a player. What kind of fail ass PvP is this?
it would make it pretty god damn unfair for block builds if everyone could instantly pop a BCR gem in and win.

edit: just to make it clear before a shitpost happens, i play 2h melee, not block.

you have to understand, builds have counters, for example lets say a fight between 2 crit attack chars, the one that can put in blind gem in their setup will win.

Or lets say a fight between an incinrator vs incinerator, the one that can slap in a immortal flesh will win.

etc

you cant win against everything, get used to it, seriously.
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Last edited by VictorDoom on Feb 13, 2015, 2:08:34 PM
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Gorsz wrote:
No, the vast majority HAS to have block reduction gem, or they will fail in PvP. So why should everyone have to customize all around one single gem that GGG introduced to make PvP actually tolerable?


Proof? You're either the only or the second person to complain about BCR.
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VictorDoom wrote:
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VictorDoom wrote:
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Gorsz wrote:




And a lot of people dont use green gems in their 6 link. Are you saying every build without a green gem in their 6 link is inferior? LMAO Id put you on blast so fast and link your comment.


No because some builds like trappers, dont need block chance reduction.




You guys can find these outlier builds to prove a point all day long, but the fact remains MOST builds are countered by evasion/spell block to the point where GGG had to create the ONLY games PVP specific gem.


Why do you have to customize your entire build/gear/armor around this one single gem just to be able to PvP without people dodging/blocking all your attacks?


Dude, YOU have to customize your entire build and gear, not everyone. Your build is simply not set out for pvp, thats it.

You have a counter, that you KNOW you can deal with in 1 support gem yet you refuse to use it and want to make it white.

Other people dont need that, other people can counter block/eva without BCR, other people have green support gems[/quote]


Yea buddy, keep pretending im the only person in the world who has a problem with the current state of Path of Exiles PVP.

When Blizzard finally got around to balancing PvP in WoW, you probably were the guy raging out when they gave CC immunity so you could not spam the same CC over and over.

Step out of the way of progress, players should not have to change their entire build, their entire armor, and spend an entire fortune of IN game currency just to use the only counter play in the game to block/evasion.
Last edited by Gorsz on Feb 13, 2015, 2:09:05 PM
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VictorDoom wrote:
it would make it pretty god damn unfair for block builds if everyone could instantly pop a BCR gem in and win.

edit: just to make it clear before a shitpost happens, i play 2h melee, not block.

you have to understand, builds have counters, for example lets say a fight between 2 crit attack chars, the one that can put in blind gem in their setup will win.

Or lets say a fight between an incinrator vs incinerator, the one that can slap in a immortal flesh will win.

etc

you cant win against everything, get used to it, seriously.




Wait.. so you're saying the BCR gem is instant win vs block? Lol...

The gem was introduced because block/evade dominated almost every single thing in the entire game of PvP, and there is ZERO way around block/evasion for 99% of builds in this game except for one brand new gem.
Last edited by Gorsz on Feb 13, 2015, 2:11:34 PM

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