Tempest shield + EE

The biggest issue isn't even the -50 res, or the fact that there's really no downside to taking it. RT means you cannot crit, CI means 1 life, acro means shit block and shit armor, EE - virtually nothing. The real issue is that tempest procs EE. I mean, tempest (from my testing) doesn't proc culling strike, so why should an idle skill reap huge rewards with no ill effect of one of the most powerful nodes in the entire tree?

From: s1053915
To: bigfoot312

cap your res over 200
-flask +50 res
-…of Resistance flask
-cast res aura / all res aura
u can 300+res noob

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bigfoot312 wrote:

From: s1053915
To: bigfoot312

cap your res over 200
-flask +50 res
-…of Resistance flask
-cast res aura / all res aura
u can 300+res noob

yeah noob just get 300 all res who cares about damage

lol..is Srandomnumbers talking about lld even?

too bad that ee is a buff and cant be warded with flasks

Yeah that guy totally missed the train on what we're talking about.

My issue here is that all I read is people debating whether it is a problem or not. No solutions that are appropriate.

I won't debate whether or not it is broken, as I haven't experience it myself yet, however I can say this: I have not read a single solution that doesnt break the golden rule 'pvp cannot affect pve'.

Your only solution so far was change how EE keystone works which is unacceptable and will never make it through. Making EE not work on buffs, will break some pve builds possibly, it just doesnt make sense.

If you insist on this to be changed, start by coming up with solutions that don't affect pve.

Golden rule? In what instance has this been exercised? Shadow's entire tree was affected pvp/pve, lets not pretend that that's a real rule.

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And what about the dual wielding nerfs, block nerfs and all that good stuff? Acro nerf? Ungil nerf?

Why not just have a separate passive tree or a separate pvp realm

yes you are absolutely right. Every single change in 1.3 to passive tree and items was fueled by pvp because the items/nodes changed were completely fine in pve and didn't need balancing at all.

EE is very problematic indeed because of the concept of the passive. Its hard to come up with a solution that doesnt ruin it for pve. It needs some sort of adjusting though because it certainly wasnt designed for lvl 28 pvp and is ridiculously powerful there. Im still baffled people have only now begun to realise EE is suuuperstrong vs some things when used with tempest shield. I mean a build similar to my own EE-templar would most likely beat my sword character consistently by just sefcasting stuff.

Also I think its rather naive to think that the tree would get balanced around pvp almost at all. Its the core game and new players in it that have been receiving help wih the passive tree starts. It may have seemed the recent changes were for pvp players but that certainly wasnt the case.