Witch - Enki's Arc Witch - dead for now - Forum

" Uragami wrote: " Here is the build I am following. http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2805657 Actually Dying Sun would be a good addition. I will pick up one later. Desecrate, Spell Cascade combo along with Spiritual Aid give the Necro nice defensive boost. Greater Spell Echo/Spell Echo allow for 7 projectiles. Downside is you are stuck while casting. I've had a few fireballs pop me because of the delay. Some suggested using Unleash. You can interrupt the cast by moving. I will try it out as well today. I started the season out with this guy and Glacial Cascade, just never got off the ground and I always come back to Enki's after I have built up some currency. I was looking for something to do with this guys and I found this build and it matched up great with Enki's. I didn't see any linked Desecrates/SC in your setup that you posted, so I was just curious as to where you placed it. I tried it out since I have a PoH laying around, and I also noticed mana issues on witch. Are you spamming foreboding mana pots to keep sustain as well? With Hierophant I do not use the Descecrate/Spell Cascade. With the Ascendancies I have 50% MoM and an additional 60% mana regen rate. Also able to push close to 12,000 mana. But with addition of the Redeemer belt with the extra mana recovery rate added to the recovery rate from the Watcher's eye, I do not have an issue with mana and increased my survivability immensely.	Posted by DannyNorth#6662 on Oct 27, 2020, 2:57:20 PM Quote this Post
" Vandorak wrote: " billybob630 wrote: I was assuming you want to switch the whole build, so gave the suggestion on regrets. If you want to improve your build, sure, I believe other people have better ideas, here is my 2-cent: In general, with limited budget, you need to downgrade your DPS and improve your survival first. If you cannot keep casting arc infinitely, that is a major problem: when you're out of mana in a group of mobs, you cannot flame dash and your mind-over-matter doesn't work, that can be one main reason you died a lot. To resolve this, an immediate step you can do, is to remove Spell Echo from your 5-link for now. --- Following are my thoughts of other changes: For survival there are multiple aspects: * Playstyle: you need to hit and run, whenever mobs is focusing on you, flame dash away first then cast arc. * Increased mana regeneration rate: this makes sure you're never out of mana * Mind over matter & X% damage taken from mana before life: this is purely layer of defence * Flat +X mana: this improves your arcane cloak so both DPS & defence For downgrade DPS, you can try to ignore spell damage modifiers you have in your gears. Something I noticed from your build, by order of importance: * For jewel you can try Kitava's Teachings, 5% regen of both life and mana is quite cool. Check Poraza's recent video about this: https://youtu.be/fS8SryrHlkg * Your can temporarily replace your current Essence Worm with another ring that have "69% increased mana regeneration rate" and flat mana * Your boot needs the enchant "70% increased mana regeneration rate if you've cast a spell recently", it helps your survival a lot, you can run lab a few times to get it by yourself * Your flasks need changes, you can strictly follow the ones mentioned in this guide * Your armor needs more mana, I think a 5-link Cloak of Defiance can be good suite for you (it adds tons of mana, also adds another 10% layer of defense via mana) I think with above change you should be able to add your Spell Echo back and cast infinitely. Also, don't be afraid to remove 1000 HP while increasing 1000 mana: Arcane cloak use 75% of your mana as additional EHP, while mind-over-matter covers 30%, that means you don't actually lose EHP by doing so. --- As bonus, I would recommend you to follow WorderMostFoul's skill gem setup: yes that is different from this guide's suggestion, but I feel they're pretty useful for a try. (You can ignore awaken gems for now since they're expensive) For that, you can replace Sigil of power setup with Storm Brand + Hexproof + Conductivity. * Storm Brand provides a more forgiving playstyle: when casted ahead of you, it auto detects enemies and jumps here and there, so you can notice enemies earlier. Personally I found that setup very helpful recently. * Curse is to help you get back some DPS, and it is one key point to improve DPS to next level in the future. (For survival you can also try Temporal Chains or Enfeeble there, so a very flexible choice) THX a lot ! i will try that, and it's very clear ! btw until i do that, i tried an other uber boss , i did it in 2 dies only.. (you can clearly see my difficulty to manage my mana) https://www.twitch.tv/videos/783605312 Thanks for the video, that helps a ton for us to understand. Yes, you need to make sure your mana is close to full for most of the time. For example, I saw you casted Arcane cloak when you had only around 1000 mana: * At that time, your EHP = 4030 + 609 + 1000 via mind-over-matter = 5639 But if you have good mana sustain, and cast Arcane cloak: * You'll have EHP 4030 + 6424 * 0.75 + more than 1000 via mind-over-matter = more than 9848 So even if you cut down 1000 of your real HP for mana sustain gears, you effectively double your EHP, and will be able to tank some one-shot. We prefer to dodge those one-shots though, I'm also still learning that part. At 2:42 you were one-shotted when Arcane Cloak is not on. At that time you have 4030 HP plus a few mana via mind-over-matter. I think that attack is "Hand of Justice". With above suggestion you should be able to tank it, but still try to learn to dodge it. This is the guide I'm learning with: https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/egz1p0/conquerors_of_the_atlas_boss_guide/ Since you don't have the habit to cast Arcane Cloak often, I would recommend you to auto trigger Arcane Cloak with this: Put this skill to your left click action slot so it auto casts whenever you move, also keep the old slot so you can still cast it manually when stationary. Personally found it easier to manage. Last edited by billybob630#2960 on Oct 27, 2020, 3:47:04 PM	Posted by billybob630#2960 on Oct 27, 2020, 3:07:53 PM Quote this Post
I must admit Kitava's Teaching is helping a lot. I'm still dying more than useful to leveling so I'm stuck at 92 now instead of 91 but it helps a lot. I've managed to unlock Sirius. Any suggestion on how I could improve a bit before giving a try at him?	Posted by ArionAthreides#0856 on Oct 27, 2020, 3:33:41 PM Quote this Post
" ArionAthreides wrote: I must admit Kitava's Teaching is helping a lot. I'm still dying more than useful to leveling so I'm stuck at 92 now instead of 91 but it helps a lot. I've managed to unlock Sirius. Any suggestion on how I could improve a bit before giving a try at him? Nice to see you haven't given up and still working on this build! I think in general Crusaders and bosses are a bit difficult for this build, for example, due to low chaos resistance I cannot beat Hunter without 1-2 portals. So I'm currently trying to level up with Heist / Non-Crusader mapping now, also in Lv 92. I think other people should have better suggestion since I died to A1 Sirus when I thought that guy is easier to manage. My thoughts: * For the first time, remove all watchstone when you talk with Zana so the Sirius unlocked is A0 * Be careful about that Deatomization Storm... Good luck! Last edited by billybob630#2960 on Oct 27, 2020, 3:45:42 PM	Posted by billybob630#2960 on Oct 27, 2020, 3:43:07 PM Quote this Post
You just need spiritual aid when using thread of hope. A lot of people uses forethought in their tree. I personally dont because I'm not comfortably sustaining mana with the increased mana cost.	Posted by Elssa123#1479 on Oct 27, 2020, 3:54:27 PM Quote this Post
Hi, i'm doing this build this league and am level 92 now with mostly basic gear. Fun so far but i'm having trouble sustaining casts since i upgraded to 6 link. With 2 liquid inspirations and even the mana potion up, my mana gets spent too fast on like bosses where i have to keep casting continuously. Can someone tell me what i seem to be missing? These are my gear The tree is pretty much identical to Enkis aside from some small differences. Also i don't have Forethought.	Posted by highwind123#5988 on Oct 27, 2020, 6:04:12 PM Quote this Post
" highwind123 wrote: Hi, i'm doing this build this league and am level 92 now with mostly basic gear. Fun so far but i'm having trouble sustaining casts since i upgraded to 6 link. With 2 liquid inspirations and even the mana potion up, my mana gets spent too fast on like bosses where i have to keep casting continuously. Can someone tell me what i seem to be missing? These are my gear The tree is pretty much identical to Enkis aside from some small differences. Also i don't have Forethought. Personally I feel depending on mana flasks is not a good idea for this build. If you want to stick with mana flask, you'll need 2-3 mana flasks here. I think increasing mana regeneration rate would more helpful. Some points (with some edits): * (+70%) You may need "70% increased Mana Regeneration Rate if you've cast a Spell recently" enchant on your boot. That is huge boost. However you might want to upgrade your existing boot since it doesn't have flat mana yet. * (+69%) To play-test above, you can also buy a cheap "69% increased Mana Regeneration Rate" rings to see how it helps. I would also suggest you to replace Essence Worm with that kind of ring, before you get mana regen from other gears. Last edited by billybob630#2960 on Oct 27, 2020, 7:03:38 PM	Posted by billybob630#2960 on Oct 27, 2020, 6:42:24 PM Quote this Post
The mana recovery from a redeemer belt is a multiplier, I'd go for that or work towards a cloak of defiance. I would not recommend dropping essence worm though	Posted by MadChickins#7514 on Oct 27, 2020, 7:25:15 PM Quote this Post
" MadChickins wrote: The mana recovery from a redeemer belt is a multiplier, I'd go for that or work towards a cloak of defiance. I would not recommend dropping essence worm though The stygian ones with the mana recovery are way too expensive for me. I'd have to settle for a normal belt and drop a jewel. Is that worth it? A cloak of defiance could get the job done, maybe coupled with the boot enchant. For some extra info, my arc cost inside sigil of power with quality(increases cost by 10%) is 2050 and my mana regen with arcan surge is 2800~ I don't see cloak of defiance as recommended in the pob, is it worth losing the 100~ life for it?	Posted by highwind123#5988 on Oct 27, 2020, 7:40:48 PM Quote this Post
" highwind123 wrote: I don't see cloak of defiance as recommended in the pob, is it worth losing the 100~ life for it? Yes, it worth it, 3600 life is kind of safe zone, if you can build up ~8000 mana. Some calculation below: Let's say, you have 4000 life & 6000 mana currently. While you dropped to 3600 life & increase to 6400 mana if switched to cloak. Without cloak, your effective HP will be: * Mind over matter bonus + Arcane Cloak Protection * 4000 / (1-30%) + 6000 * 75% = 10214 With cloak, your effective HP will be: * Larger mind over matter bonus + Arcane Cloak Protection * 3600 / (1-40%) + 6400 * 75% = 10800 So by trading 400 total HP with 400 total mana when switching to the cloak, you actually get a bit more EHP here, also with better mana regen and DPS. Last edited by billybob630#2960 on Oct 27, 2020, 10:25:52 PM	Posted by billybob630#2960 on Oct 27, 2020, 9:19:46 PM Quote this Post