[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

Hi Guys,

first post here, so sorry for spelling mistakes, wrong use of words, et cetera.

I just wanted to ask if someone could have a look on my league character and can give me a hint, on what I should upgrade next (and what could be the possible modifiers on the gear).

Gameplay wise, survivability looks and feels fine, but my clearspeed is somewhat low. I know I could use enchantments, but I am a coward, when it comes to the lab (although, I have to admit, It's not that hard for the character...).

Many thanks in advance for your help Guys!

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Sir_chris666 wrote:

Hi Guys,

first post here, so sorry for spelling mistakes, wrong use of words, et cetera.

I just wanted to ask if someone could have a look on my league character and can give me a hint, on what I should upgrade next (and what could be the possible modifiers on the gear).

Gameplay wise, survivability looks and feels fine, but my clearspeed is somewhat low. I know I could use enchantments, but I am a coward, when it comes to the lab (although, I have to admit, It's not that hard for the character...).

Many thanks in advance for your help Guys!

Is your clear speed slow on trash mobs or in bosses ? If its on bosses it would make sense i guess because you run Ballista instead of Barrage

You mean, I should use barrage as single target skill? Should I switch Tornado Shot with barrage in boss fights or just plain exchange ballista with barrage?

The clear Speed get's slower on mobs beginning with tier 11, everything below is just fine und it goes like a breeze.

Since you do not run Kaom's you have enough slots to run 2 skills, TS and Barrage without having to run a 2nd weapon and swap on the fly on boss fights to use Barrage

I don't think that Ballista is worth in this patch, haven't used it but i haven't seen anyone running it, its slow i guess ? Slow paced in general, people are clearing maps on end game like its butter or like they are eating bacon, i can't imagine Ballista being worth. Barrage would make more sense for single target and TS is already perfect for AoE/clearing scenarios.

I am not experienced either i don't feel like i can recommend much however i'm pretty current with the Barrage thingy. Also it looks like you have refined your gear and rolls a lot so i guess you need to step it up go to the next level and get a Harbinger bow with good rolls, its the end game. It can also synergize better with Assassin's Mark than Projectile Weakness since Assassin's Mark helps us do more crits/improves crit dmg which fits with Harbinger's crit rolls.

Also i don't think that Faster Attacks is worth on TS, our Atck. Speed is already insane as it is maybe Pierce Support could work ? on lv20 and 20% it gives 29% projectile damage and pierce, a straightforward damage boost you need for those t11 maps in which you feel like doing less damage. Or Slower Projectiles Support could work, on lv20/20% it gives 39% proj damage by sacrificing some proj speed which still is insane. Both directly could improve your clear speed.

Where in this build do you get any life leech from? The tree does not have any, and the items don't either? Purely from bloodrage?

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xLocke wrote:

Where in this build do you get any life leech from? The tree does not have any, and the items don't either? Purely from bloodrage?

Blood Rage does not work if you are 100% ele dmg (it only work on phys dmg).
You need to take some nodes on the tree. I suggest you take those in duelist area but you may also take those claw leech nodes to the right from Shadow and use Lioneye's Fall jewel to convert them to Bow (warning: expensive jewel).

Myself I am at 91 atm and I still simply use those duelist nodes and they are just fine (in fact they give more overall than those claw I think, but claw nodes give dmg too).

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Sir_chris666 wrote:

Hi Guys,

first post here, so sorry for spelling mistakes, wrong use of words, et cetera.

I just wanted to ask if someone could have a look on my league character and can give me a hint, on what I should upgrade next (and what could be the possible modifiers on the gear).

Gameplay wise, survivability looks and feels fine, but my clearspeed is somewhat low. I know I could use enchantments, but I am a coward, when it comes to the lab (although, I have to admit, It's not that hard for the character...).

I'd get a Harbinger bow - even when the tooltip stays much the same, the difference are the crits - especially with Diamond flask it goes through the roof.
Also, grab a good rolled The Wise Oak flask may boost you with some Pen (aka more dmg).

Then, you can also have Assasin mark combo. I use Herald of Ice + Curse on Hit + Ass Mark + Blink Arrow (yea, the copy from the arrow can apply the curse to bosses it seems).

Another thing could be attack speed on gloves, +1 frenzy change on boots, enchant on helmet, +1 arrow on quiver, crit multiplier on necklace. BTW do not underestimate the projectile enchant on helmet or +1 arrow on quiver - they are f****g overpriced for a reason, it gives TS a lot.

One question of my own for you guys - how good is The Wise Oak (compared to other flask such as Atziri's Promise) assuming that having all three resistances at the same amount is impossible?

From what I gathered, you only get the pen for the highest uncapped resistance ang grabbing a gear which will do that seems very unlikely (and ever upgrading such gear seems even more ridiculous). Yet I use the flask and can still say it makes a lot of difference in DPS.

So...has anyone done some calculations on this?


Speaking of... what flasks do you actually end up using?
I currently have (at lvl 91):
(Divine) Life flask of "oh sh1t" - instant heal + anti bleed
(Eternal) Life flask with slower but big heal (to keep me up with Blood rage)
Diamond flask - really good dmg boost (seriously, probably beats any uniq flask o.O) + antifreeze which is good until you get max frenzy charges, then you are immune anyway
Wise Oak - dmg (but not sure how efficient)
Quicksilver - because I gotta run faster


I know I could technically go with one heal flask only, but I am hesitant to do that because of Blood rage which keeps eating at my life especially if you stop to loot few things and want to up yourself before running into another pack.
So, what poisons are you drinking guys?

Can anyone take a look at my profile and tell me what to upgrade next? I have about 800 chaos, not sure if I should keep saving for a gg endgame harbinger bow or upgrade gloves and rings/any.

Any advise would be greatly appeciated.

@Siliarus

I'm running a similar setup than yours.

One quick healing flask / anti-bleed

One longer tick flask for the same reason: bloodrage is a bitch / anti-freeze

Diamond Flash / +lifesteal but I may try to roll for either anti curse or %evasion rating

Quicksilver / +mvtspeed +capacity so I can use it 3 times

My only difference here is that I run Atziri's promise. Using it at the same time than diamond flash and it brings quite some dps and lifeleech. Maybe not the most optimal choice considering the ammount of eledmg I do but for now it'll do.

But if yo run Wise oak and Signal Fire, I'd say that if at least fire is your highest resistance, it's probably worth it but would have to try it.