[2.2] Fyndel´s LL BM or Mana Spectralthrow - UPDATED FOR ASCENDANCY

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dulahan200 wrote:

I know you have said multiple times you need to be 90+ for this build to work, that dps and Es will suck otherwise.

BUT I'm that type of weird guy who likes to see how his character "grows", starting from level 70. Currently I have shavs, coe, auxium/atiri's belt, acuity and I'll have a loath bane "soon".

I know it will be hard at the begining, but I don't want it to be harder than what's necessary. Could you write a priority between all different wheels used in your build?

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dulahan200 wrote:

I know you have said multiple times you need to be 90+ for this build to work, that dps and Es will suck otherwise.

BUT I'm that type of weird guy who likes to see how his character "grows", starting from level 70. Currently I have shavs, coe, auxium/atiri's belt, acuity and I'll have a loath bane "soon".

I know it will be hard at the begining, but I don't want it to be harder than what's necessary. Could you write a priority between all different wheels used in your build?

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i dont want to start the war again so i keep this short , imo a mirror should only be used for the BIS setup meaning ALL perfect cause nobody would use it later again but pleas guys stopp saying ANYTHING about shields anymore i am fucking sick just stop and pleas dont quote this eather just forget it no need to answer everbody has his own opinions

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swib wrote:

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i dont want to start the war again so i keep this short , imo a mirror should only be used for the BIS setup meaning ALL perfect cause nobody would use it later again but pleas guys stopp saying ANYTHING about shields anymore i am fucking sick just stop and pleas dont quote this eather just forget it no need to answer everbody has his own opinions

Firstly, if I saw a shield with a lot of ES, spell damage and resists, I would buy it.

I didnt because theres no one selling one like this, just mirror service.

Now if difference between axn, dimme and flubby are so small, why bother soooooo much in which one are the best if all of them suit this build and any other ES+CoE build? Flubby deliver less ES but gives more damage, each one have his singularity.

Ok, you want the BiS, I get it. I just want a top notch equip that works in the build I'm using, we are talking about marginal gains here, while you need to invest HUGE ammount of currency to get this marginal gain.

For me its better to play with a lot of ES and spell damage and resist capped than playing with a bit more of ES and 6% more block attack (that I and many other dont give a fuck) with fucked up resists.

You cap yours resists just fine with AXN shields (because you have a pile of mirrored items combined), ofc the shield are better for you then - kipad just said the obvious.

Finally, I didnt began with any shit, you were the one attacking me because I have dimme shields (that work amazing for this build and many others).

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swib wrote:

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i dont want to start the war again so i keep this short , imo a mirror should only be used for the BIS setup meaning ALL perfect cause nobody would use it later again but pleas guys stopp saying ANYTHING about shields anymore i am fucking sick just stop and pleas dont quote this eather just forget it no need to answer everbody has his own opinions

Firstly, if I saw a shield with a lot of ES, spell damage and resists, I would buy it.

I didnt because theres no one selling one like this, just mirror service.

Now if difference between axn, dimme and flubby are so small, why bother soooooo much in which one are the best if all of them suit this build and any other ES+CoE build? Flubby deliver less ES but gives more damage, each one have his singularity.

Ok, you want the BiS, I get it. I just want a top notch equip that works in the build I'm using, we are talking about marginal gains here, while you need to invest HUGE ammount of currency to get this marginal gain.

For me its better to play with a lot of ES and spell damage and resist capped than playing with a bit more of ES and 6% more block attack (that I and many other dont give a fuck) with fucked up resists.

You cap yours resists just fine with AXN shields (because you have a pile of mirrored items combined), ofc the shield are better for you then - kipad just said the obvious.

Finally, I didnt began with any shit, you were the one attacking me because I have dimme shields (that work amazing for this build and many others).

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stzbttln wrote:

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swib wrote:

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i dont want to start the war again so i keep this short , imo a mirror should only be used for the BIS setup meaning ALL perfect cause nobody would use it later again but pleas guys stopp saying ANYTHING about shields anymore i am fucking sick just stop and pleas dont quote this eather just forget it no need to answer everbody has his own opinions

Firstly, if I saw a shield with a lot of ES, spell damage and resists, I would buy it.

I didnt because theres no one selling one like this, just mirror service.

Now if difference between axn, dimme and flubby are so small, why bother soooooo much in which one are the best if all of them suit this build and any other ES+CoE build? Flubby deliver less ES but gives more damage, each one have his singularity.

Ok, you want the BiS, I get it. I just want a top notch equip that works in the build I'm using, we are talking about marginal gains here, while you need to invest HUGE ammount of currency to get this marginal gain.

For me its better to play with a lot of ES and spell damage and resist capped than playing with a bit more of ES and 6% more block attack (that I and many other dont give a fuck) with fucked up resists.

You cap yours resists just fine with AXN shields (because you have a pile of mirrored items combined), ofc the shield are better for you then - kipad just said the obvious.

Finally, I didnt began with any shit, you were the one attacking me because I have dimme shields (that work amazing for this build and many others).

nooo please don't lol we are over this, please don't bring up this discussion again. Let's stay on track and try to help people with their builds.

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ye es flat and es % is a must now in my opinion but everybody has diffrent opinion and that guy has dimes shield aswell so we shouldnt start talking about it anyways or a world war forum massacre 2 is gonna start

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is it offensiv to you when i say you got dimmes shield? if yes why you just said you like it :D

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How do you sustain ST off life without Vitality? I must be missing something obvious here.