1.1.0 Patch Notes - Sacrifice of the Vaal

I had three, arguably four characters I like to play using.

The patches here make just about all of them just about unplayable.


Furthermore, was IIQ really that gamebreaking? Economy-breaking maybe? If it's economy breaking why is it now cloistered to legacy? Not like making the rich richer (both by owning legacy gear and by using it to farm better) helps the economy.

In theory I think "legacy" is the best way to handle nerfs to outstanding gear. People don't lose their items but things don't remain broken.

In practice however, HOW many things are now legacy? Consolidating the wealth to only those who got there first. And they'll always be for sale, too... just in prices only those WITH the wealth can afford. As mentioned by someone else, it's similar to classism.

Oh, so it's about ignoring Standard economy and letting newer things develop in other leagues?

... What if I don't want to start again every four months?

Hardcore, huh... how's that lag by the way?

"First 50" ... does anyone have the stats on how many hundreds of thousands of people play the game? I guess that's just cosmetic so I don't really care. But the piece of shiny string dangling over the impossibly-large pit just insults me a bit. Statistically speaking it is impossible for me to get this sort of thing.

I looked at the new tree... if I had seen this when I picked the game back up again a few weeks ago (a month? Hard to remember) I would probably not have redownloaded the game.

I may quit again. I'm just suddenly disinterested in trying to make a build work with half the useful nodes. I guess MY one or two legacy items can just be removed from the economy. Silver lining, right?

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I looked at the new tree...

Where is the new tree ?

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zriL wrote:

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I looked at the new tree...

Where is the new tree ?

Well I found it here:

http://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1zlt62/updated_for_110_offline_skill_tree_calculator/

It seems legit.

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zriL wrote:

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I looked at the new tree...

Where is the new tree ?

on reddit ofc, where else?

How stupid are you people...Every game with free trade will always have a small % that are rich and can afford anything and most people poor/middle class who dont have any top end gear. Thats what makes top end gear epic is the fact that its super rare. If you dont like it yea go play D3 they ruined all social aspects and made the game boring as hell. Legacy items are in the game and 1 day when you get an awsome drop u will be able to afford them, play game more whine less. Also I am not rich at all the total of all my gear is like worth a mirror if im lucky. GLHF!

I suppose divining a pair of "new" (8% all res) rainbowstride won't affect the all res mod?

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khemintiri wrote:

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D_o_g_f wrote:

Rich people have IIQ gems/OP IIQ sets. Rich people farm currency at an accelerated rate compared to normal. Inflation occurs due to an influx of items/currency. Inflation is normal, but normal players who don't have the IIQ sets won't keep up with it, while new players become more and more screwed because high end non legacy items needed to complete end-game become more expensive, but the currency drop rate for new players doesn't change at all.

inflation in the real world and the game doesn't work the same way though, the good items lets say dual high res + life will become increasingly common, therefore the price will go down , couple of chaos pherhaps . collectors items and legacy items go up in price, ordinary good items go down.

Therefore it is never harder for a new player to start in standard/hardcore leagues , its easier .I can fathom someone saying standard and hardcore will become to easy one day , but saying its unfair and hard for new players is not by any means logical.

Legacy items are fun for people who have them , let them feel powerful it does not impair another persons gameplay , the game is now balanced around the new items , they are sufficient and will still feel very powerful.

In 4 months some new items will come out that becomes legacy , the new players who didnt have any legacy items will then have some , feel nice about themselves and so the cycle goes on.

Yes the players who started the earliest will have some items some people might never have , and it will make them happy.
But only jealousy and greed would make a person feel worse for seing another person happy, and the fault then lies not in GGG but in the person feeling jealous , no ?

In the end i know im not changing anyone's mind , just my 2 cents .

^^^ this guy gets it.


Its easier in standard. You seen that crazy axe matey posted up earlier? Its mental, the item only exists because of standards economy, its way more op than any legacy unique and a result of those items existing along with mirrors is that anything less than that item is worth less than a mirror. The rich dont gather wealth then drain the best items away, they gather, spend it on crating and raise the standard of gear on the server, they dont suck up all the good gear like they did in D3.

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MackBesmirch wrote:

You make a good point, khemintiri, in that new players and casual players aren't necessarily impaired by experienced and older players owning OP legacy gear, however, I also agree with D_o_g_f that OP legacy gear does give players an unfair advantage farming. Depending on the legacy gear they have, their defense and/or offense and/or clear speed and/or magic find enables them to quickly and efficiently clear difficult content and therefore increase their chances of finding good gear, which, if they already are OP with legacy gear, will probably sell... rich get richer even if the poor don't necessarily become "poorer". Optimistically, on the other hand, if enough OP legacy gear framers find enough great gear and sell it, we might end up with a designer outlet mall in which there is more supply to meet demands and the most coveted gear becomes more affordable because it is more common. Then we'll be thanking the OP legacy farmers. Who knows?

I think you over value these legacy uniques. Top players arnt usually using them. Hegemony who does the podcasts with Aux and the GGG team recently streamed hitting 100 in standard with a crazy op Witch. Hes using a BoR... as a skin on his uber op Hubris circlet or whatever he wears. Hes not using an Aegis for a shield like my Ci crit witch, hes using a top rolled Archon Kite shield. I found my Aegis, at the time they were 4 ex, then they went up to 14 when they got popular. 14ex vs his shield which is probably mirror only therefor like 150-200 exalts. Why do you think people used 150 exalt shields at a time when a legacy Aegis was 14?


this is what people dont get, extremely rich players with the most op characters on the server dont give a shit about legacy uniques. Not because they can easily afford them, they dont even want them, theyre trash compared to the items they have. Yellow items that have been crafted almost to perfection and can still be crafted now by people with 100s - 1000s of exalts on hand. Legacy uniques are a drop in an ocean of wealth and power gathered by the top 5% of the server over the last year in standard. In time they will fade away, lost on inactive accounts, but there will always be the top 5% of people and they will always have better gear than everyone else.

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Snorkle_uk wrote:

Legacy uniques are a drop in an ocean of wealth and power gathered by the top 5% of the server over the last year in standard. In time they will fade away, lost on inactive accounts, but there will always be the top 5% of people and they will always have better gear than everyone else.

That's not better.

can someone explain this > "All Support Gems now support values up to level 30"


tnx in advance

Corruption Candidate? It has 2 good stats 3 if your short on strength? But otherwise kind of BLAH.