14th templar ranked 203 balance?

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KoTao wrote:

And while roa generally isnt as fast as st in docks, its certainly safer. Trying to train huge packs of undying and wraiths with sub 500 life can get a bit hectic.

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boof wrote:

The entire point of roa is to pull giant packs and more or less get in the middle of them to make use of point blank. Roa, the way it should be played, is probably just a bit more safe than leap slam.

In fact, I'm having a hard time thinking of what would be safer than ST, and yet still somewhat race viable.

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boof wrote:

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KoTao wrote:

And while roa generally isnt as fast as st in docks, its certainly safer. Trying to train huge packs of undying and wraiths with sub 500 life can get a bit hectic.

The entire point of roa is to pull giant packs and more or less get in the middle of them to make use of point blank. Roa, the way it should be played, is probably just a bit more safe than leap slam.

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boof wrote:

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boof wrote:

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KoTao wrote:

And while roa generally isnt as fast as st in docks, its certainly safer. Trying to train huge packs of undying and wraiths with sub 500 life can get a bit hectic.

The entire point of roa is to pull giant packs and more or less get in the middle of them to make use of point blank. Roa, the way it should be played, is probably just a bit more safe than leap slam.

I always did. Turbo is all the more reason to run point blank. Imo if you aren't using point blank, then I don't understand why you'd run roa and not lmp LA.

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KoTao wrote:

Edit: Safer than roa/st? Forked split arrow, nothing safer than offscreening everything. Plenty viable in turbo+mod events, or in standard events long as you dont expect to win.

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terrex wrote:

Point blank this hoe..

http://www.twitch.tv/terrex7/c/3755032

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boof wrote:

I always did. Turbo is all the more reason to run point blank. Imo if you aren't using point blank, then I don't understand why you'd run roa and not lmp LA.

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KoTao wrote:

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boof wrote:

I always did. Turbo is all the more reason to run point blank. Imo if you aren't using point blank, then I don't understand why you'd run roa and not lmp LA.

LA does the same annoying shit every projectile does, ie half the visible hits miss. I get enough of that with ST; a good part of the reason i like roa is because it just works (or did, until it lost its 100% hit rate, and its still way more reliable than any projectile based skill).

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boof wrote:

That's why I said race viable... lol
Only place where split arrow is viable with actual competition is blamt or lethal, but in both of those you typically use both skills.

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boof wrote:

I like it too, but it also suffers from desync due to targeting. When you're clumping up a big pack, chances are not one of those monsters are where they appear to be. So when you start a volley into the pack, the monster you just hovered over might be in the back or at the edge, or not even there, resulting in the volley not catching most of the pack, or missing completely.
I used to get by this by shooting a volley without targeting, beside the pack, then while holding the mouse down, moving it over the pack. Not terribly efficient though.
This kind of desync can often put you in mortal danger, especially if you're playing point blank style, as you rely on stun to survive.