Elemental Buzzsaw & Static Strike - Solo the entire game, quickly and cheaply 1.1.0 update

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kallell wrote:

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cloudscraper wrote:

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jerten212 wrote:

I found a 3s L coil. can use jews orb to try and get 6s?

What kind of question is this?

"Can i play this game to play this game?"

haha. That's a great response.


To answer the dudes question. I did a 6s, 5L this weekend. Took 350 jewelers to 6s, and 150 fuse to 5L.

that's some good information! Just bought my Lightning COil, unsure if it should be my main priority to get it to 5L or better 6L... or just get quality gems now.
I am level 80 now, running 69/70 maps till i get enough 71s

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that's some good information! Just bought my Lightning COil, unsure if it should be my main priority to get it to 5L or better 6L... or just get quality gems now.
I am level 80 now, running 69/70 maps till i get enough 71s

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Yep. it's a real gutcheck, but 5L / 6s is doable.

Anyway, since i'm invasion, i wanted to come up with a more tanky build. I think i came out with a solution. For whatever reason, people under-estimate block. With my variant, you lose some elemental damage and a little life %, but you get up to 66% block with crest of perandus -- which overall will raise your EHP by a ton. Plus you get some innate spell block as well. Furthermore, you are up to 60% increased attack speed at 85.

http://poebuilder.com/#character/AAAAAgAAA5YEfgSxDH0QfxGWFfAWbxmFGYoaMho4Go8a2xutHNwdFB2qI_YkPCSqJpUnqSjFKPotgy9vNuk6WDsoPI494kZxSO5JUUp9TDVMYFFgUzVVS1XGVvpXyVnzWkhabWBDZp5noG1sbXtuPW-ecH1wu3KpfNl9dX_GgwmHGYd2j0aQVZMnlWaXBpu1pwinXKeEqZWsqrQMtUi307iTu-PAGsM6xKLGnspKz2XQ0NN-18vZE-GI42rquuvu7g7veu_w87722vlj-tL7CfzF_ro=


Another 85 variant, with 18% more life, but you give up attackspeed, some ms.

http://poebuilder.com/#character/AAAAAgAAA5YEfgx9DkgQfxGWFfAZhRmKGjIaOBqPGtsbrRzcHRQdqiP2JDwkqiaVJ6koxSj6LYMvbzbpOlg7KDyOPeJGcUjuSVFKfUw1UWBTNVVLVcZW-lfJWfNaSFptYENirGaeZ6BtbG17bj1vnnB9cLtyqXzZfXV_xoMJhxmHdo9GkFWTJ5cGm7WdqqcIp1ynhKmVrKq0DLVIt9O4k7vjwBrDOsSixp7KSs9l0NDTftad18vZE-GI42rquuvu7g7veu_w87722vlj-tL7CfzF_ro=

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perfectchi wrote:

Can someone just talk about how to run Jungle valley?
I found that I can't really survive to this boss or maybe I just don't know how to fight it or should I just skip it.

here's my gear

Chaos Res. Apart from that, kite kite, you need a bit of health to be able to survive at least two EKs.. it's tough boss, no denying it.

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kallell wrote:

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that's some good information! Just bought my Lightning COil, unsure if it should be my main priority to get it to 5L or better 6L... or just get quality gems now.
I am level 80 now, running 69/70 maps till i get enough 71s

current

Yep. it's a real gutcheck, but 5L / 6s is doable.

Anyway, since i'm invasion, i wanted to come up with a more tanky build. I think i came out with a solution. For whatever reason, people under-estimate block. With my variant, you lose some elemental damage and a little life %, but you get up to 66% block with crest of perandus -- which overall will raise your EHP by a ton. Plus you get some innate spell block as well. Furthermore, you are up to 60% increased attack speed at 85.

http://poebuilder.com/#character/AAAAAgAAA5YEfgSxDH0QfxGWFfAWbxmFGYoaMho4Go8a2xutHNwdFB2qI_YkPCSqJpUnqSjFKPotgy9vNuk6WDsoPI494kZxSO5JUUp9TDVMYFFgUzVVS1XGVvpXyVnzWkhabWBDZp5noG1sbXtuPW-ecH1wu3KpfNl9dX_GgwmHGYd2j0aQVZMnlWaXBpu1pwinXKeEqZWsqrQMtUi307iTu-PAGsM6xKLGnspKz2XQ0NN-18vZE-GI42rquuvu7g7veu_w87722vlj-tL7CfzF_ro=


Another 85 variant, with 18% more life, but you give up attackspeed, some ms.

http://poebuilder.com/#character/AAAAAgAAA5YEfgx9DkgQfxGWFfAZhRmKGjIaOBqPGtsbrRzcHRQdqiP2JDwkqiaVJ6koxSj6LYMvbzbpOlg7KDyOPeJGcUjuSVFKfUw1UWBTNVVLVcZW-lfJWfNaSFptYENirGaeZ6BtbG17bj1vnnB9cLtyqXzZfXV_xoMJhxmHdo9GkFWTJ5cGm7WdqqcIp1ynhKmVrKq0DLVIt9O4k7vjwBrDOsSixp7KSs9l0NDTftad18vZE-GI42rquuvu7g7veu_w87722vlj-tL7CfzF_ro=

This build is actually tanky enough without block, my friend runs this same build in Invasion, he's #10 atm on the ladder with no real desire to get much more other than a Lightning Coil.

It gets sad reading through this sometimes. Play mostly solo and don't have a lot of time to be on (small spurts rather than big play sessions). Currently at level 71 on my ranger in ambush. Trying to catch up to my standard scion leftover from dom which can destroy everything in wraeclast. So, I have great experience with this build.

For those who think you need lightning coil, alpha's 20/20 gems immediately know that you can slowly piece this build together with only ok gear. Also, there is soooo much emphasis on DPS in soooo many posts. Don't worry too much. It'll grow with your gems leveling.

My (ambush) gear currently.


I can kill dominus, do low level maps and farm piety. My cold resist isn't quite capped yet and I run haste/wrath/anger. DPS is only like 2.1K I think? When I first killed piety and dominus it was closer to 1.7K and my resists weren't all capped. Health around 2.5K

I did grab acro for now but really not sure I need it. I use to grab ondar's (which I do love) but plan on skipping it (and respeccing out of acro) in search of lightning coil. Hopefully rng is kinder and lets me get an alpha's (1st priority) eventually. Drops have been shit for me. but I do have a lot of flasks :)



2x gemcutters drop experienced gems.... 2 level 7 and 10 crap gems. fml. Best drops have been from white trash mobs but now that I can farm piety hopefully rng turns around a bit.

Whirling blades over leap slam for me. I use to use leap slam and had quicksilvers for run speed now I just whirl around no need for quicksilvers. I have leap slam on my alternate weapon set so if I really want to jump a gap I can swap, jump, swap. Easy. That's also where I will put my portal gem if I ever get one. Plus leap slam desyncs more often for me (especially going through doorways)

for reference my standard gear, 11K dps

I love this build! Now I just leveling gems !

My gear (Scion lvl 89) :



Sword with 275eDPS and I buy this body armour because i need more evasion - cold damage and the price is very cheap !

How does it compare vs a physical ST build actually ?
Since we do not really know how high exactly monster resistances are ...
You can reach about 16K with Auras, ok, fine.
Should be able to reach (will obviously need an insane weapon) 12K+ Physical with a 2H Physical based build.
Probably still higher overall DPS then with a 500 DPS 2 hander, which is easier to get.

Elemental builds ain't that super cheap either.
You NEED '+x% weapon elemental damage' mod on several items in order to reach high enough values.

What is so great about this build is the ability to get really high +x% maximum resistances while having good enough DPS at an affordable cost.

Wondering how is the life leech since 1.1.0 by the way.

I feel you cannot compare this build to a phys 2H build. They are very different and 12k ST on phys actually requires mirror gear. Realistic is ~8K which when taking into account the addition of Hatred, Anger and Wrath in parties will do more damage. You do also gain a slight advantage when gemming as Life Leech as a support is not necessary. However, you lose shield and a lot of survivability with that and the weapon will cost you (maybe the same as Alpha's actually)

However, 2H phys is trashy to play... the main selling point of this build for me is how fast paced and fun it is with a quick 1H.

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Iyacthu wrote:

How does it compare vs a physical ST build actually ?
Since we do not really know how high exactly monster resistances are ...
You can reach about 16K with Auras, ok, fine.
Should be able to reach (will obviously need an insane weapon) 12K+ Physical with a 2H Physical based build.
Probably still higher overall DPS then with a 500 DPS 2 hander, which is easier to get.

Elemental builds ain't that super cheap either.
You NEED '+x% weapon elemental damage' mod on several items in order to reach high enough values.

What is so great about this build is the ability to get really high +x% maximum resistances while having good enough DPS at an affordable cost.

Wondering how is the life leech since 1.1.0 by the way.

that part is the part a lot of people coming from other builds tend to focus too much on. What is 'high enough'? For what?

You can get up to about 15 or 16K with max everything sure but you don't NEED that. You can clear most low-mid maps and farm merci dominus with 5-7K dps (half of that max value).

You can do palace dom with 7-10K which is mostly levelling the gems to 20 and alpha's with some + elemental damage on weapons.

Don't get too carried away with the numbers too early. You can reach certain thresholds (piety, dom, maps, high maps) at low numbers then they become clear speed enhancers after that.

As for physical vs elemental. No idea. How much elemental equates to physical? Is it possible to tell? I guess you'd have to look at boss clear speeds to have any sort of gauge.

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Madcow1120 wrote:

As for physical vs elemental. No idea. How much elemental equates to physical? Is it possible to tell? I guess you'd have to look at boss clear speeds to have any sort of gauge.

I'm pretty sure that physical 2H version would outperform ele fairly easily as far as clear speed is concerned. Physical resistance of mobs is abysmal in this game (highest armor value is about 920-950 iirc) whereas elemental resistance mitigate hard-hitting spell far more efficiently due to the way they scale.