0.11.2 Patch Notes

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skyelar wrote:

It would be really cool to see some discussion from the game designers on how they're able to successfully play test life based builds in maps without dying, while doing moderate damage.


I hear this from a bunch of people but I don't understand it. How have people been using life builds before the "recent" CI buffs? They obviously were, and even without Koam's.

Life is stronger now than it was then with the monster damage reduction, so I don't understand how life is crippled and punished.

I thought the only change is that CI is relatively stronger now. Everyone was using life before that happened and nothing else has changed, no?
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Glowyrm wrote:
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skyelar wrote:

It would be really cool to see some discussion from the game designers on how they're able to successfully play test life based builds in maps without dying, while doing moderate damage.


I hear this from a bunch of people but I don't understand it. How have people been using life builds before the "recent" CI buffs? They obviously were, and even without Koam's.

Life is stronger now than it was then with the monster damage reduction, so I don't understand how life is crippled and punished.

I thought the only change is that CI is relatively stronger now. Everyone was using life before that happened and nothing else has changed, no?

Kripparian is using ES, thats why Life is shit now. Most people also tend to ignore that while ES only gives you ES and nothing else, Life gives you a lot more like for example regen, posibility to stack auras, use it to cast spells, instantpots and you automatically get Armour/ER. But hey, Life should give the exact same amount ES gives right?
Seems like most life-build players who went near the ranger tree will get a respec since they said they moved Gymnastics closer to the ranger starting area.
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Startkabels wrote:
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Necrogue wrote:
CI had better survivability than life because Life users generally used armor. Armor is useless because it basically offers no protection from big hits(I get it. If you hit steel armor hard enough it will bend but this is a fantasy game!). Fixing the broken armor mechanic or a bigger life pool would have helped but Kaoms Heart ruined that having 10 times more life than most other items. So what do they do? Nerf CI again.. This game has some good content but it's obvious that the balance people have no idea what they are doing. I was about to get stash tabs for my 2nd account that I have friends use but what's the point if my build is constantly getting nerfed because of other broken mechanics.


This, and I am not even a CI user. I only and always you life/armor but I am forced in the full blown life build.
Thought this game was all about building your character the way you want and variety.

The broken armor mechanic is totally ruining everything: First life gets nerfed (result of monster damage nerf but does not matter: Armor still does not work against big hits) and now CI gets nerfed too.

Instead of reducing monster damage and nerfing life you should have reworked armor mechanics and BUFFED life



the change to life and damage was a change to armour.

how much armour does your character have without using a gran flask?
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nynyny wrote:
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Glowyrm wrote:
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skyelar wrote:

It would be really cool to see some discussion from the game designers on how they're able to successfully play test life based builds in maps without dying, while doing moderate damage.


I hear this from a bunch of people but I don't understand it. How have people been using life builds before the "recent" CI buffs? They obviously were, and even without Koam's.

Life is stronger now than it was then with the monster damage reduction, so I don't understand how life is crippled and punished.

I thought the only change is that CI is relatively stronger now. Everyone was using life before that happened and nothing else has changed, no?

Kripparian is using ES, thats why Life is shit now. Most people also tend to ignore that while ES only gives you ES and nothing else, Life gives you a lot more like for example regen, posibility to stack auras, use it to cast spells, instantpots and you automatically get Armour/ER. But hey, Life should give the exact same amount ES gives right?


Life should not give the exact same amount as ES because of the extra benefits you have mentioned. People should be able to get more ES than life. That is still the case after this patch.

The question is how much more ES should one have more than life. People shouldn't be able to get a ridiculous amount of ES while going CI versus the amount of life one can get from a life-based build. The patch balanced out the relative power of CI vs life-based build a bit. There may need additional tweaking in the future, but this is a step in the right direction in terms of balance.

Run some calculations. CI wasn't nerfed that badly.
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Last edited by Athoy#5214 on Jul 15, 2013, 12:19:31 PM
A great patch, thanks GGG! Looking forward to a better Passive Skill Tree for the Rangers, as previously the only goal was to get out of it as fast as possible. I hope this one engages and makes me spend more time in the Ranger area and more importantly utilizes some great gaming dynamics.

But any downsides of releasing this in the middle of a one week race?
That twitch integration is amazing!!

Definitely want the new micros! Also, I use Lightbane Raiment! Can't wait to see its new look! (hoping Templar's legs are covered)

I'm excited to see the ranger updates, too! The change to the energy shield node might mean my witch gets a respec, too!

Awesome work, GGG!
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JahIthBerTirUmMalLumKoKoMal wrote:
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Necrogue wrote:
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i dont care, you clearly havent seen dragon or other armor focused tanks tanking vaal smash and kole etc, to say that


Non map Vaal and Kole? You nub I'm not talking about those weak bosses. (ha see I can troll too)


you're bad, just get over it n00p


That's it? Haha you're a fail troll

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My ranger will be even more OP after the changes. That was so necessary, because sometimes he wasn't able to oneshot a boss. ;D

That so called CI nerf is just a joke and I'm unable to see why ppl rage that much. Nothing changes for CI builds.

RT users (most of them are melees) will receive more reflect than currently and thanks to the IR changes melees will get another "nerf" too (of course not only melees).


I really like how GGG never failed to show how much they hate melee chars. ;D
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posted by Thaelyn on 12. August 2013 17:33
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