Sword/Melee skills that actually hit enemies not ground

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Mashgesture#2912 wrote:

Mace does fine

I see people saying “true” as if mace strike or rolling slam don’t work. And those are the closest hitting melee skills in the game.

And I make them work just fine. You don’t need screen clear at all.



Someone above also says you’re animation locked as well. Which you aren’t, I guess they don’t know dodge roll exists.

Okay, so what are they better at then those other screen clearing skills? They are clearly worse at screen clearing... and if they would be better at screen clearing they wouldn't really be melee anymore. So what are they better at?

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IonSugeRau1#1069 wrote:

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Mashgesture#2912 wrote:

Mace does fine

I see people saying “true” as if mace strike or rolling slam don’t work. And those are the closest hitting melee skills in the game.

And I make them work just fine. You don’t need screen clear at all.



Someone above also says you’re animation locked as well. Which you aren’t, I guess they don’t know dodge roll exists.

Okay, so what are they better at then those other screen clearing skills? They are clearly worse at screen clearing... and if they would be better at screen clearing they wouldn't really be melee anymore. So what are they better at?

Why do I need to clear the screen ?

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IonSugeRau1#1069 wrote:

The point was that true melee skills don't have a real use case when the game demands screen clear from you all the time, and as such they will focus on those.

A comment I saw in another thread just now so you get the picture "I can kill 4 screens of mobs with lightning spear before a mace warrior finishes his first swing to clear 1/4 of a screen."

You can build speedy screen-clearing glass-cannon mace-warriors too. The screen-clear argument is a poor one.

Most people just don't do that because they RP warrior as an armour-based juggernaut (poorly) and then when they get one-shot as a "tank" (re: glass cannon wearing a helmet) instead of their usual evasion/ES glass-cannon they feel that the opportunity cost of that "mega-defense" was not worth it or that "armour is bad".

The glass-cannon playstyle is punished less often on evasion/ES builds just due to the nature of those defensive layers, not so much about the skills/weapons.

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Mashgesture#2912 wrote:

Why do I need to clear the screen ?

So what are they better at?

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IonSugeRau1#1069 wrote:

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Mashgesture#2912 wrote:

Why do I need to clear the screen ?

So what are they better at?

Better at what and for what purpose?


I asked why I need screen clear and you answered without answering and now on a new topic.

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Mashgesture#2912 wrote:

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IonSugeRau1#1069 wrote:

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Mashgesture#2912 wrote:

Why do I need to clear the screen ?

So what are they better at?

Better at what and for what purpose?


I asked why I need screen clear and you answered without answering and now on a new topic.

I asked you something, and you answered with a disingenuous question. Clearly, you don't have an answer because there is none.

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IonSugeRau1#1069 wrote:

The point was that true melee skills don't have a real use case when the game demands screen clear from you all the time, and as such they will focus on those.

A comment I saw in another thread just now so you get the picture "I can kill 4 screens of mobs with lightning spear before a mace warrior finishes his first swing to clear 1/4 of a screen."

It’s not disingenuous, answer why you think the game demands screen clear use

These are your own words.


I think I know why this is not being answered and you are pivoting to another question as well.

Weird to discuss about melee when there's no melee!

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Mashgesture#2912 wrote:

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IonSugeRau1#1069 wrote:

The point was that true melee skills don't have a real use case when the game demands screen clear from you all the time, and as such they will focus on those.

A comment I saw in another thread just now so you get the picture "I can kill 4 screens of mobs with lightning spear before a mace warrior finishes his first swing to clear 1/4 of a screen."

It’s not disingenuous, answer why you think the game demands screen clear use

These are your own words.


I think I know why this is not being answered and you are pivoting to another question as well.

I'm not answering it because it's ridiculous that you even ask it. This is what the game rewards, quite literally, in it's current state. Just look at breach for example. Are you going to sit there and pretend that it's not there? Now please, spare me the silly questions.

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IonSugeRau1#1069 wrote:

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Mashgesture#2912 wrote:

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IonSugeRau1#1069 wrote:

The point was that true melee skills don't have a real use case when the game demands screen clear from you all the time, and as such they will focus on those.

A comment I saw in another thread just now so you get the picture "I can kill 4 screens of mobs with lightning spear before a mace warrior finishes his first swing to clear 1/4 of a screen."

It’s not disingenuous, answer why you think the game demands screen clear use

These are your own words.


I think I know why this is not being answered and you are pivoting to another question as well.

I'm not answering it because it's ridiculous that you even ask it. This is what the game rewards, quite literally, in it's current state. Just look at breach for example. Are you going to sit there and pretend that it's not there? Now please, spare me the silly questions.

Okay so you don’t need screen clear for breach, melee splash, ancestral call support exists and work just fine.

If you think rewards are somehow being lost on my end for going close range melee you’re just incorrect. And guessing as well.

There’s several mechanics in the game that barely have any mobs as well. Are we just going to look solely at breach to confirm our stance on things? Don’t be ridiculous.

If you don’t have anything constructive to say other than “you need screen clear because I believe you need screen clear” that’s fine; but just say so next time so we can avoid this useless back and forth.

Not answering and responding to someone directly is just odd.