Dont restrict the freedom of players

POE is a game with endless possibilities and a lot of freedom. Limiting that build freedom feels weird.

But POE2 has so much Jank and useless shit and useless restrictions.

Some examples:
- if you have wolf pack active in only 1 weapon set, but only have enough spirit in that weapon set to use it, then you can use it. You need enough spirit in both weapon sets.

- having unique runes in weapon set 1 you cant use the same rune in weapon set 2

- lineage gems have a level limit for some reason

- Socket items have a level limit. Why? i have no idea

- Cant use the same Skill gem twice

There is a lot more stuff that simply restricts the player into a certain way to play which isnt in POE fashion. Lift restrictions, give the palyers more freedom. If there is sth really broken nerf it specifically and not do a "blanket nerf". Thats lazy.

Or in other words nerf a specific problem and not the whole system.

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Alzucard#2422 wrote:

Some examples:
- if you have wolf pack active in only 1 weapon set, but only have enough spirit in that weapon set to use it, then you can use it. You need enough spirit in both weapon sets.

- having unique runes in weapon set 1 you cant use the same rune in weapon set 2

- lineage gems have a level limit for some reason

- Socket items have a level limit. Why? i have no idea

- Cant use the same Skill gem twice

Every example given can be answered pretty easily


Unnecessary power creep and imbalance

Path of Speed Bump. ='[.]'=

There's balance in this game?

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Mashgesture#2912 wrote:

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Alzucard#2422 wrote:

Some examples:
- if you have wolf pack active in only 1 weapon set, but only have enough spirit in that weapon set to use it, then you can use it. You need enough spirit in both weapon sets.

- having unique runes in weapon set 1 you cant use the same rune in weapon set 2

- lineage gems have a level limit for some reason

- Socket items have a level limit. Why? i have no idea

- Cant use the same Skill gem twice

Every example given can be answered pretty easily


Unnecessary power creep and imbalance

The thing is first one is probably a bug actually.

Second one i dont know

Third/fourth is only a thing for second characters. Or you get stuff gifted. And in no situation does it matter if you can do either. Second characters or if you get stuff, then campaign is a joke anyway.

Fifth i can understand that its to prevent power creep, but power creep is what defines POE in many ways.

I would say the primary failure is Weapon = Class.

Lots of players are still saying "Druid" or "Blood Mage". Ascendancy options are almost entirely stat sticks. Even some of their "mechanics" can be dumbed down to stats. I'm not saying they need the annoying "This is the Bleed Ascendancy" but more like Slayer, Trickster or even Inquisitor.

Each Ascendancy I mentioned is pretty open ended with really only one condition yet they all feel unique in their own way. Ascendancy options in PoE2 don't feel unique at all.

They're also trying to force weapon swapping instead of giving it a natural payoff. Speaking of restrictions. Lets not forget Infusions which gates any mix of Elemental spells. Pretty sure non-Grenade Crossbow skills suck on purpose because of Bow too. Their objective couldn't be more clear with the introduction of Talismans. 3 class presets that otherwise mix with nothing.

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Alzucard#2422 wrote:

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Mashgesture#2912 wrote:

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Alzucard#2422 wrote:

Some examples:
- if you have wolf pack active in only 1 weapon set, but only have enough spirit in that weapon set to use it, then you can use it. You need enough spirit in both weapon sets.

- having unique runes in weapon set 1 you cant use the same rune in weapon set 2

- lineage gems have a level limit for some reason

- Socket items have a level limit. Why? i have no idea

- Cant use the same Skill gem twice

Every example given can be answered pretty easily


Unnecessary power creep and imbalance

The thing is first one is probably a bug actually.

Second one i dont know

Third/fourth is only a thing for second characters. Or you get stuff gifted. And in no situation does it matter if you can do either. Second characters or if you get stuff, then campaign is a joke anyway.

Fifth i can understand that its to prevent power creep, but power creep is what defines POE in many ways.

1) Not a bug. You are asking for free spirit.
•Unnecessary power creep and imbalance

2) Unique rune limit 1, follows the same idea as lineage gems. Limit your power creep.
•Unnecessary power creep and imbalance.

3) They have level requirements for the same reason we have stat requirements and level requirements for gear. You're asking for a removal of that.
•Unnecessary, beyond silly, power creep and imbalance

I like how you call the campaign a joke, and want to make it more of a joke with your suggestions.

You defend power creep in one hand saying its a "staple of POE" but then ignore the staple of POE of level requirements/stat requirements.


4) If you could use the same skill gem twice... Youd break the game or make them redundant. I assume you want separate CDS and instances otherwise you wouldn't go with the redundant route.

Example:
It wouldnt be power creep having 2 seismic cries or two hammer of the gods. It would be stupid broken.

•Unnecessary suggestion to break the game.


Not sure what game that is supposed to be the vision with these suggestions. But it sure sounds like someone who wants to just enable cheats when they play.

Single player games are for these types of things.

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Mashgesture#2912 wrote:

1) Not a bug. You are asking for free spirit.
•Unnecessary power creep and imbalance

2) Unique rune limit 1, follows the same idea as lineage gems. Limit your power creep.
•Unnecessary power creep and imbalance.

3) They have level requirements for the same reason we have stat requirements and level requirements for gear. You're asking for a removal of that.
•Unnecessary, beyond silly, power creep and imbalance

I like how you call the campaign a joke, and want to make it more of a joke with your suggestions.

You defend power creep in one hand saying its a "staple of POE" but then ignore the staple of POE of level requirements/stat requirements.


4) If you could use the same skill gem twice... Youd break the game or make them redundant. I assume you want separate CDS and instances otherwise you wouldn't go with the redundant route.

Example:
It wouldnt be power creep having 2 seismic cries or two hammer of the gods. It would be stupid broken.

•Unnecessary suggestion to break the game.


Not sure what game that is supposed to be the vision with these suggestions. But it sure sounds like someone who wants to just enable cheats when they play.

Single player games are for these types of things.

1. No im not asking for free spirit. If you equip a sceptre i your second weapon set and put Wolf Pack only in that while not having enough spirit in the first weapon set, then you cant activate wolf pack.

2. No its only about second weapon set. Im not asking for having multiple unique runes. Im asking that you can equip the same rune in first and second weapon set. For example you have 2 wands one in first weapon set and one in second. You cant equip the same unique rune on both wands. If you do one wand wont be active.

3. Yes campaign is a joke on second char, third char etc. you can use so many leveling uniques. I specified that in my post dont turn my words around. You always do that kind of stuff. Keep your arguing to what is actually said. Otherwise its called a strawman argument.

Because the Campaign is a joke to twinks/alts it doesnt matter if you limit socket items to a certain level. It does not has a purpose.
For the first run of the league the level cap on socket items also has no purpose. The game itself is self limiting in that regard. The supply of those socket items is just nonexistent.

4. As i said i can understand that limiting. It actually has a purpose. Here its just my opinion that we should not be limited. Also before 0.3 you were able to use 2 of the same gems. You act like its sth. new.

Only point 4 has sth. to do with power creep the rest simply has not. If you disagree with me please argue appropriately and in full sentences.

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Xzorn#7046 wrote:

I would say the primary failure is Weapon = Class.

Lots of players are still saying "Druid" or "Blood Mage". Ascendancy options are almost entirely stat sticks. Even some of their "mechanics" can be dumbed down to stats. I'm not saying they need the annoying "This is the Bleed Ascendancy" but more like Slayer, Trickster or even Inquisitor.

Each Ascendancy I mentioned is pretty open ended with really only one condition yet they all feel unique in their own way. Ascendancy options in PoE2 don't feel unique at all.

They're also trying to force weapon swapping instead of giving it a natural payoff. Speaking of restrictions. Lets not forget Infusions which gates any mix of Elemental spells. Pretty sure non-Grenade Crossbow skills suck on purpose because of Bow too. Their objective couldn't be more clear with the introduction of Talismans. 3 class presets that otherwise mix with nothing.

For weapons you can get surges. Which do sth. similar to infusions. Problem is the way to get surges is pretty bad.
I dont think Crossbow only works with grenades, you have multiple different ways to play Crossbow.

- Galvanic Shards for example is a pretty cool skill.
- Plasma Blast is really good for bosses

But in general i would agree that Grenades are mostly the way to go with Crossbow, but by no means the only way to play it.

Disagree with what was said, with proof; not go off on some tangent.




For example tell me how double seismic cry and double hammer of the gods is not broken.



Tell me how asking for wolves to work when you even say "while not having enough spirit" isnt asking for free spirit


Tell me how unique gems arent behaving like lineage supports. Limiting your power creep.


Tell me how asking to remove the level requirement on things, is asking to disengage from a basic core POE identity of power creep and imbalance protection.



These are all easy to reply to. Avoiding them, is just proving what I said in my initial response.

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