stop making every build into a glass cannon post campaign

i love this game.
its based off one of my favorite games of all time... diablo 2

the combat is fun.. the combos are good, the story is fantasic


but the endgame?
every single class, every single build. is "glass cannon"

1 shot the screen before you get 1 shot

bosses same way
missed a dodge? 1 shot
boss is offscreen? 1 shot

doesn't matter i have 25k effective hp

doesn't matter if im at max hp max ES and have a ward of 4000
its still a fucking 1 shot

STOP IT not everyone wants to be a fucking glass canon.

every time i die it makes me want to fucking close the game

because no matter what i do the game simply DOES NOT ALLOW YOU to survive

why can't i build tanky and kill slower if i want?
why is that SIMPLY NOT AN OPTION
we have GIANT passive tree and yet no matter the build or class

you want to increase damage by 10%? oh thats 4 nodes
you want to lower incoming damage by 10%
thats 50div and 12 passive nodes.

and this is after im maxed in every single resist including chaos, so please dont talk shit about " you need to max your resists" they ARE maxed

LET US CHOOSE how we want to play

if i want to clear SLOWER and be TANKY

LET ME CHOOSE TO DO SO!!

look back at diablo 2
yes you had the " i can be a sorc and 1 shot monsters"
but u ALSO had barb, and paladin,, and shapeshift druid

where you could tank ANYTHING in the game except uber mephisto because of his conviction aura
and did u kill slower that the sorc's? yes... absolutely.. but you could CHOOSE

GIVE US THAT CHOICE!

thats all im asking for the CHOICE to be tanky
i will gladlysacrifice 50% damage to be 50% tankier

heck i would sacrifice 80% damage to be 80% tankier

both ingoing and outgoing damage are absurd
and thats fine for glass cannons.
but GIVE US THE OPTION to play tank builds with less damage and more survivabilty

and i mean VIA THE PASSIVE TREE
i want flat PERCENT damage reduction across all types

i don't see why we cant simply have nodes that say "
deal 10% less damage and take 10% less damage.. and then just simply have 9 of them and let us take what we want.

and if i take all those nodes.. and people can still 1 shot stuff.. then maybe you will realize what I've been trying to tell you all along.. that damage is too high.

approve

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SwiftKitten#3681 wrote:

if i want to clear SLOWER and be TANKY

LET ME CHOOSE TO DO SO!!

You absolutely can though

Game designers claim they want it to be slower and more thoughtful, yet endgame enemies and bosses are fast and all the endgame activities like clearing maps, delirium, abyss, breach all reward you more for going faster.

You can but they keep nerfing the tanky specs like Titan Minion builds. They moved some good Minion passives further away from Titan. I enjoyed my Titan Minon build this season except for my DPS and Mana pool really did struggle this season. I ended up making a new class/build to finish the season.

Exactly this. I am sitting on 38k EHP EV/ES hybrid, and I either one-shot the boss or he one-shots me. That's how I treat all pinnacle and citadel bosses. I only invest in damage post-campaign because it doesn't matter how much I invest in defense. I am immortal while mapping, but bosses instantly one-shot me. What i did with my first mirror? Ofc i bought a gun. The worst boss is the Stone Citadel boss, Doryani. If I don't kill him fast, I have to work around that strange mechanic between phase 1 and 2 where there are lasers from the center. Giga annoying because ofc it micro stuns and you are dead. Visual clarity is also ass during this boss fight so you have to dodge it like in dark souls. Same for that wolf-citadel boss where he shoots ice arrows from the sky. I can't see nothing.

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SwiftKitten#3681 wrote:

but the endgame?
every single class, every single build. is "glass cannon"

You've never played an Essence Drain build, or any ES-based Lich build for that matter, have you?

How does 12k+ ES sound? You've practically eliminated 1shots at all levels, but your single target DPS is slow.

Not tanky enough? Want to facetank the corridor phase from Arbiter? Be an Abyssal Lich and get 100k+ ES.

GGG doesn't make builds, players do...

It's your choice to play a glass cannon or not.

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Mashgesture#2912 wrote:

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SwiftKitten#3681 wrote:

if i want to clear SLOWER and be TANKY

LET ME CHOOSE TO DO SO!!

You absolutely can though

Unfortunately you can't. We want all damage immunity options. Difficult to achieve all of them but the options is our freedom to diversity builds.

A shitty 90lvl EDC Lich with about 30d investment at the time of buying gear.

Yet, I've done all bosses at max diff (I mean the "+1 boss diff" in boss atlas tree), except Uber Arbiter. Never been one-shot (unless I was drunk out of my mind, but most likely I wasn't one-shot - I probably just didn't realize something was damaging me, because my eyes were closed).

Edit: show us your PoB, and ask for help - there is no shame in that.