Content Update 0.4.0 — Path of Exile 2: The Last of the Druids

Rhoa nerf - thank you, because this was crazy but when nodes to not slow you so much while using skills will be even harder to get I would like to see nerf with 100% as well. 50% reduced slow with 60 spirit cost sounds like a middle ground.

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Could you please reconsider to not using this "kiss curse" mechanic?
Only melee tree is full of this crap while other parts of the tree are not.

Do you know how much time/effort players have to put to gain points later in the game?
To punish them for taking a node is just a terrible idea.

I would prefer smaller buff but without being punished for taking a node which I farmed for so long, were my already slow warrior will get another slap in the face slowing it down even more.

PLEASE STOP DOING THIS !!! THIS IS NOT FUN !!!

- "we want ancestral warrior totem and spell totem to be like an ultimate so it consumes 3 charges"
- 0.1% player use hateforge tech generate charges to spam 20+ AWT in 0.3
- make spell totem has limit so no 5+ totems (unlike AWT has no limit)
- hateforge nerfed so no more spam many totems in 1s

no fun allowed even for niche build, I guess.

Black Screen Gears Gaming FIX WHEN?

[Removed by Support]

gg

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kimlow#2903 wrote:

Whatever, man. Do whatever you want. It’s not like anything we players say has ever mattered.

But hey, let’s be real — what you’re doing isn’t balancing, and it’s not nerfing either. It’s content deletion with extra steps. Even the most normal, middle-of-the-road builds get obliterated like they personally offended someone on the design team.

Your entire update philosophy seems to be:
“Is it popular? Cool, destroy it.”
Instead of, y’know… actually giving other classes something fun, interesting, or even remotely playable. And no, bumping a random stat from 12% to 13% doesn’t count as a buff — that’s just patch notes LARP.

Every patch hits the same formula:

1 Find the build players are actually enjoying.

2 Panic.

3 Nuke it from orbit.

4 Gaslight everyone into trying classes that have the excitement level of wet cardboard.

Players just want to have fun — not sit here in emotional damage mode watching our builds get Thanos-snapped while the Copium Knights march in screaming, “aCtUaLly thIs is HeaLthy fOr tHe gAmE.”

And the moment we dare to disagree?
The Defense Force shows up instantly with the legendary:
“If you don’t like it, don’t play.”

Bro, with that attitude it’s no wonder the player count is doing a real-time disappearing act.

Agree!!!!
I mean... the game can be hard and challeanging Souls-like type but it has to be FUN! It doesn't have to be 1 button PoE1, or brainless D4 clicking, but the game suppose to bring FUN to life.

- Your approach of nuking fun builds and punishing players for everything is BAD.
- "Kiss curse" mechanic is BAD because you are punishing people for progress,
- so much punishment for dying is BAD, for such people is HCSSF not softcore,
- nuking builds from orbit (like Lich + LastLament) is BAD and you rather should think how to make ALL crossbows build equally fun instead of nuking the only way to play crossbows in the endgame.

Maybe reload just sucks, huh?! Monk spam attacks, casters spam spells, archer spam infinite arrows, and only crossbows have annoying reload, and when people found a way to avoid this, you instead of focus on how to remove/reduce reloading to bring fun apparently people want playing crossbows, instead you just nuked the build.

Where are you going with this game?
To be some miserable experience people would not like to have in their free time?

The game is developing. Different ppl want different thing. Not everyone can be happy. The most important for dev is for them to be happy about their game which is exactly what Jonathan and Mark are showcasing.

I also think some of the things could be different but overall i am happy with the product.

If i dont like 0.4 i wont play for long but i will play (as everyone else here saying they will not)

They said juicing the temple is possible and it should bring the hardest content yet to be seen. That sounds like late game fun.

Builds being destroyed is understandable. If you play only one build for multiple leagues it brings nothing to the table for the dev team from EA perspecrive (they should completely destroy LA).

PS: i am kinda sick companies (not just games but movies and stuff) listen the most to crying minority instead of focusing on their vision...

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Hoptam#0924 wrote:

The game is developing. Different ppl want different thing. Not everyone can be happy. The most important for dev is for them to be happy about their game which is exactly what Jonathan and Mark are showcasing.

I also think some of the things could be different but overall i am happy with the product.

If i dont like 0.4 i wont play for long but i will play (as everyone else here saying they will not)

They said juicing the temple is possible and it should bring the hardest content yet to be seen. That sounds like late game fun.

Builds being destroyed is understandable. If you play only one build for multiple leagues it brings nothing to the table for the dev team from EA perspecrive (they should completely destroy LA).

PS: i am kinda sick companies (not just games but movies and stuff) listen the most to crying minority instead of focusing on their vision...

Can't agree. If some builds are being played for longer time it means that people found FUN using them. GGG instead of thinking how to bring other builds to the same level of being FUN and popular (Lich + Last Lament is good example) are just nuking those builds instead. The only fun way to play crossbows. In 0.4 Mercenary and/or crossbows will have what? Less than 1% of usage on PoeNinja? This is BAD approach.

Another example. Melee is not so popular because people don't like how slow it feels and "kiss curse" being everywhere. Instead of removing things people don't like which makes specific classes less popular, GGG is going to bring "kiss curse" mechanic for everything. Instead of removing things people don't like they will bring more of it to make all classes equally miserable - great way to destroy the game. Can't wait for reloading quivers mechanic then. GG.

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VexxArc#5319 wrote:

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It still feels wrong to me to try to copy POE1 things into POE2 and just adjusting them a bit when you clearly worked out all the mechanics in the first game to suit the pace and gameplay to a much quicker than POE2, but it might be just me idk.

GGG doesn’t “copy” POE1 things into POE2 — it’s simply a natural progression over time.
There’s a lot from POE1 that will eventually make its way into POE2, but all of that takes time to develop.

I feel people forget that POE2 is still in Early Access.

Do you remember how POE1 evolved over the years into what it is now?
How many years devs spent developing and polishing it?

So why expect an EA version of POE2 to be as good as POE1 after only one year?
It doesn’t make any sense.

I’m sure that once the full release arrives, POE2 will become the best ARPG for many years ahead.

I completely agree with you, I'm as sure as you that POE2 will be the best ARPG ever, and yes I am aware that it's only early access, but seems to me that they don't know what they want. Whenever you start a project you should know what is your target audience, eg who is going to play the game. But seems to me they try to make a game that suitable for both newbs / 30mins a day players and the sweatlords who play this game all day. Crafting was in a good spot last league, accessible for everybody, all they had to do was to nerf the essence like they did now and make some mods harder to get on items when reroll, but no, they got rid of omens. Years and years of development on poe1 and for some reason they are still doing mistakes like this.

And I'm really sorry, if poe2 is a natural progression of poe1, why is there a poe1 anymore? Or they'll get rid of it when all the mechanics from 1 will be implemented in 2?

Anyway I don't want to be a doomer or anything, just threw my 2cents as I'm a bit pissed off with the lack of responsibility when it comes to poe1, which feels more like a playtest area for poe2 nowadays more than anything.

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TomPo75#7422 wrote:

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Hoptam#0924 wrote:

The game is developing. Different ppl want different thing. Not everyone can be happy. The most important for dev is for them to be happy about their game which is exactly what Jonathan and Mark are showcasing.

I also think some of the things could be different but overall i am happy with the product.

If i dont like 0.4 i wont play for long but i will play (as everyone else here saying they will not)

They said juicing the temple is possible and it should bring the hardest content yet to be seen. That sounds like late game fun.

Builds being destroyed is understandable. If you play only one build for multiple leagues it brings nothing to the table for the dev team from EA perspecrive (they should completely destroy LA).

PS: i am kinda sick companies (not just games but movies and stuff) listen the most to crying minority instead of focusing on their vision...

Can't agree. If some builds are being played for longer time it means that people found FUN using them. GGG instead of thinking how to bring other builds to the same level of being FUN and popular (Lich + Last Lament is good example) are just nuking those builds instead. The only fun way to play crossbows. In 0.4 Mercenary and/or crossbows will have what? Less than 1% of usage on PoeNinja? This is BAD approach.

Another example. Melee is not so popular because people don't like how slow it feels and "kiss curse" being everywhere. Instead of removing things people don't like which makes specific classes less popular, GGG is going to bring "kiss curse" mechanic for everything. Instead of removing things people don't like they will bring more of it to make all clases equally miserable - great way to destroy the game.

Those fun builds as you call them usually have one thing in common. They destory screens and bosses in seconds wich is something the game should avoid imho.

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Hoptam#0924 wrote:

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TomPo75#7422 wrote:

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Hoptam#0924 wrote:

The game is developing. Different ppl want different thing. Not everyone can be happy. The most important for dev is for them to be happy about their game which is exactly what Jonathan and Mark are showcasing.

I also think some of the things could be different but overall i am happy with the product.

If i dont like 0.4 i wont play for long but i will play (as everyone else here saying they will not)

They said juicing the temple is possible and it should bring the hardest content yet to be seen. That sounds like late game fun.

Builds being destroyed is understandable. If you play only one build for multiple leagues it brings nothing to the table for the dev team from EA perspecrive (they should completely destroy LA).

PS: i am kinda sick companies (not just games but movies and stuff) listen the most to crying minority instead of focusing on their vision...

Can't agree. If some builds are being played for longer time it means that people found FUN using them. GGG instead of thinking how to bring other builds to the same level of being FUN and popular (Lich + Last Lament is good example) are just nuking those builds instead. The only fun way to play crossbows. In 0.4 Mercenary and/or crossbows will have what? Less than 1% of usage on PoeNinja? This is BAD approach.

Another example. Melee is not so popular because people don't like how slow it feels and "kiss curse" being everywhere. Instead of removing things people don't like which makes specific classes less popular, GGG is going to bring "kiss curse" mechanic for everything. Instead of removing things people don't like they will bring more of it to make all clases equally miserable - great way to destroy the game.

Those fun builds as you call them usually have one thing in common. They destory screens and bosses in seconds wich is something the game should avoid imho.

Sure, they should FIX builds which are OP and one-shooting bosses, that's for sure.

But why people don't play crossbows? Because they think reload idea is BAD. Instead of fixing reload they are nerfing the only way to avoid annoing mechanic.
BTW - LastLament will still one-shoot bosses so it will fix nothing in this regard, only the lack of reload (the only fun thing) will be removed.

People don't like melee because is way too slow and you are being punished for taking nodes you farmed so hard, so instead of removing this they will bring more miserable for other nodes for all classes. So more of what people want to avoid.

This is not a good way to make game better if instead of improving things people don't like and are avoiding, you just give it to everything so everyone will be equally unhappy.

Gamers: we don't like melee because "kiss curse" feels bad and is slowing already slow builds.
GGG: don't worry, soon everyone will feel equally bad. "Kiss curse" for everyone!
Will it make melee better, or just will make the game worse?

Gamers: we don't like reload mechanic as none other class have to deal with such B$, but we found ONE build to avoid this mechanic and it is FUN.
GGG: we hear you. Instead of improving crossbows we are going to nuke this build.
Will it make game and crossbows better, or will burry them 7 feet under?