Need help with PC configuration pls - price matters!

Golden rules for POE2.

CPU: Ryzen 3D > Ryzen > Intel. Just because late game you are heavily CPU bound and in that case aditional L3 VCACHE is miles away from any other CPU. Even old 5700x3D can run this game okayish in heaviest situations and is one of top 10 CPUs for this game.

GPU: Nvidia RTX4000+ or newer. Just because in current state FSR/XES/NIS are miles behind DLSS, that can be swapped for DLSS4. More fps, better image quality and you can also enable driver frame generation (smooth motion). AMD can't compete, but that is just because of devs not updating game for AMD GPUs for years. I prefer AMD, but in this game there is just one sad option for maximum image quality/performance. Intel GPU... never use that. When it works for same games, it is just unimpressive average, but in many games it just doesnt work. Ignoring it makes life easier. NVidia have unfair advantage and can cheat a lot of free performance.

RAM: I think 16GB is bare minimum, but game alone uses on my PC between 8-14GB, so to prevent slutter 32GB+ is best. For Ryzen 3D performance is impacted a lot by low latency RAM, just because VCACHE adds latency so you need to compensate it somehow.

SSD Ateast 512GB, because game uses a lot of space and so do shader cache. 256GB is enough just for game only and if you run OS on it, you need 512GB. Also because RAM needs 2-3x its capacity in space on your disk for swap file . NVME only, don't use SATA. Game is using up to 2GB/s in heaviest situation, so SATA could be bottleneck and game can't keep up with streaming, resulting in FPS drops or slutter.

Like I said, u haven't specified anything.

I wouldn't trust AI with something like that btw. (I wouldn't trust AI with anything tbh)

So, since u want a mid range PC and I don't know if u're buying new or used parts I throw in something that's "mid" in my opinion:

CPU AMD Ryzen 5600 or better 5700X3D
GPU RTX 3080 > 3070 TI > 3060 depending on budget and availability
(alternatively AMD, but I'm not sure about their lineup - certainly better than the 5000 series tho)
RAM 32 GB, RAM is cheap nowadays
SSD NVME well depending on ur budget aswell, 500GB if it's for games only should be fine, otherwise I'd at least get 1TB
MB u'd have to figure out urself, there's too many out there

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The0dil#4308 wrote:

Golden rules for POE2.

CPU: Ryzen 3D > Ryzen > Intel. Just because late game you are heavily CPU bound and in that case aditional L3 VCACHE is miles away from any other CPU. Even old 5700x3D can run this game okayish in heaviest situations and is one of top 10 CPUs for this game.

GPU: Nvidia RTX4000+ or newer. Just because in current state FSR/XES/NIS are miles behind DLSS, that can be swapped for DLSS4. More fps, better image quality and you can also enable driver frame generation (smooth motion). AMD can't compete, but that is just because of devs not updating game for AMD GPUs for years. I prefer AMD, but in this game there is just one sad option for maximum image quality/performance. Intel GPU... never use that. When it works for same games, it is just unimpressive average, but in many games it just doesnt work. Ignoring it makes life easier. NVidia have unfair advantage and can cheat a lot of free performance.

RAM: I think 16GB is bare minimum, but game alone uses on my PC between 8-14GB, so to prevent slutter 32GB+ is best. For Ryzen 3D performance is impacted a lot by low latency RAM, just because VCACHE adds latency so you need to compensate it somehow.

SSD Ateast 512GB, because game uses a lot of space and so do shader cache. 256GB is enough just for game only and if you run OS on it, you need 512GB. Also because RAM needs 2-3x its capacity in space on your disk for swap file . NVME only, don't use SATA. Game is using up to 2GB/s in heaviest situation, so SATA could be bottleneck and game can't keep up with streaming, resulting in FPS drops or slutter.

I truly appreciate your response, so thank you very much. I'll do my best to run the Poe 2 game, but I'm definitely limited by my budget. xD

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exeloch#2941 wrote:

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Oinkaments#6390 wrote:

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exeloch#2941 wrote:

not minimum righ ?

Please, when you choose hardware to play a game, never go for the "minimum requirements" to build your pc

Always go above the minimum requirements because it will be a dreadful experience.

yes sure, thats not minimum

AI said from google

Minimum System Requirements
OS: Windows 10
Processor: Intel Core i7-7700 or AMD Ryzen 5 2500X
Memory (RAM): 8 GB
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960 (3GB VRAM) or ATI Radeon RX 470
DirectX: Version 12
Storage: 100 GB available space

Well, let me tell you this.
Until april I'd been playing POE2 on a simillar rig to what you've posted in your OP:
Ryzen 5 2600
RX580 8 GB
16 GB RAM

While I was able to run the game with low settings on 1080p with about 60 FPS (capped), it was quite painful AND I only made it to Act 3 normal in campaign, so there was not that much going on on the screen. Yet my FPS went down quite a bit (like 20-40) everytime there was some more action. Can't imagine what it would be like in the endgame, when the whole screen is permanently exploding with all kinds of colourful stuff...
POE2's optimisation isn't particularly great (well, it's still early EA, afterall) and even much beefier rigs suffer in mapping, so I'd say that the proposed setup will not be enough, with a high chance of the game being simply unplayable at all later in the game...

Biggest problem of this game is, you need good PC to play it.

Late game is extremely extremely CPU bottlenecked and depending on build, also GPU bottlenecked. Mostly fire skills etc.

I think 3D CPU, 32GB Ram and 0.5TB NVME SSD is bare minimum, to not suffer that extreme fps drops. GPU is more optional thing, but I wouldn't recommend less than RTX 3000, just because of DLSS. RTX 4000 have advantage, because you can fremagen half of your frames, so you save up to 50% CPU performance. Because of all shader compiling, game uses 8C/16T CPU fully. A lot of CPU can be saved by increasing shader cache in NVidia drivers, so you compile everything you see only once per driver update. That is a lot of saved CPU performance, for cost of atleast aditional 20GB disk space. But in that case you heavily use your SSD for shaders, for me resulting in hundreds of gigs read per day of playing. Also gsync/freesync is nice in this game, because your fps feels higher even when you have it low. Also, saved some performance by using resizable bar with size 8GBs, to save CPU needed for CPU to GPU transfers.

With all optimization and specs bellow, I have 2k (downsampled to fullhd by dlss) I have stable 158 fps (for my 165hz monitor). But in large fights in endgame, I am happy with 40 fps, with framegen 80.

My specs:
CPU: Ryzen 5800x3D OC @ 4.7 GHz
RAM: 96GB RAM (yea, a little overkill, but I don't only play games)
GPU: RTX 4070
SSD: 1x NVME PCI 5.0 2TB (in 4.0 slot) and 1x NVME PCI 4.0 1TB (in 3.0) slot.

I also use primocache, 64gb as cache for SSD. With 95% hitrate I run game from RAM. Also my game is split, game on main ssd and shaders and game cache in 2nd ssd, so I load things in parallel.

GPU Usage: 50-60%, in big fights 80-90% with chaos chronomancer, with fire stormweaver build I had 100%.

So with all this in fullhd I have at worst 40 fps and only RTX 4000 gsync + framegen makes it smooth 80 fps...

I can't complain, game runs smooth for me but with such an effort I neved needed for any other game. And DLSS4 makes fullhd look like 2k.

Oh, and I use shadow + GI quality on high, not ultra. It looks like it saved like 50% of gpu performance and I see almost no difference, just more static shadows. Devs put there description that ultra is not recommended, because for slight gain there is massive performance loss.

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Nikuksis#6962 wrote:

I guess you're kidding. But if not its not enough even for 1080p at minimals.

I have ryzen 3700x + 6550 xt and its struggle running game at 60 fps at both 1080p and 1440p.
Even with upscaler at "quality".

Almost same spec was before with 4070rtx. Upgraded to 32gb ram and 9800x3d now it rocks.

Poe2 definetely wants x3d tech cpu.