Map sustain is ACTUALLY bad. All t14/15 are SOLD OUT IMMEDIATELY

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Kill boss = +1 way stone


Maybe it's a bug, but this is just not true. I almost never get a waystone for a boss kill. I remember that I used to have them in 0.2 and was quite disappointed not getting them anymore.
Last edited by Setso_loulou#0666 on Sep 11, 2025, 9:41:50 AM
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Henide#3803 wrote:
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? I can't tell if you're agreeing or trying to disagree haha

Well, life must be difficult for you.


Nah just understanding you. And formatting replies apparently. Lol.

Sounds like you're map sustaining perfectly fine to me.


"Map sustain" does not mean that i get 1.1 waystones from a fully juiced and cleared waystone. "Map sustain" means that I have options to roll some affixes and discard some maps from time to time, currently i get about 800% more tablets than tier15 waystones and that is just dumb. Tinkering with Tablets is fun, so is Tinkering with Waystones. And tempchains chilling fields with maiming mobs can get directly mailed to GGG HQ.
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Kill boss = +1 way stone


Maybe it's a bug, but this is just not true. I almost never get a waystone for a boss kill. I remember that I used to have them in 0.2 and was quite disappointed not getting them anymore.


???? It is 100% true like I should record a bunch of fucking maps right now.

Every single boss that I've killed is always a waystone OR the last rare that's how the system works It's LITERALLY FULL PROOF to give you infinite maps.

There's no possible way to run out,
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Last edited by Coconutdoggy#1805 on Sep 11, 2025, 9:48:40 AM
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Kill boss = +1 way stone


Maybe it's a bug, but this is just not true. I almost never get a waystone for a boss kill. I remember that I used to have them in 0.2 and was quite disappointed not getting them anymore.


Same. Most of the time I get only 1 or no map drops at all.
I'd say this is more about people being really picky about waystones. Sure you can get good sustain of waystones. But once you start juicing all of the waystones and discarding anything with temporal chains or frozen ground, it starts reducing the sustain.
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vexorian#9572 wrote:
I'd say this is more about people being really picky about waystones. Sure you can get good sustain of waystones. But once you start juicing all of the waystones and discarding anything with temporal chains or frozen ground, it starts reducing the sustain.


I knew there'd come someone saying that, thats why I mentioned in the post, that I sold only a couple of maps so far. So I'm obviously not being picky. But I guess reading is difficult...
Yeah I don't understand how that can happen unless you've forgotten important details. Every single map is guaranteed to drop at minimum 1 map of the same tier when you kill the last rare. Unless you're constantly doing what I do when I'm too blasted and walking away in the middle of the map and never finish it, it should be impossible not to sustain.
Last edited by KaosuRyoko#1633 on Sep 11, 2025, 10:02:41 AM
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So I've finally been running T15 maps for a couple of days with my warrior.

- I've been doing almost only magic maps, with some rares here and there.
- no normal maps
- I've failed only 1 map on this character so far (a boss killed me before I did the rest of the map).
- Every level, I've been BUYING OUT ALL OF Doriyani's stock and mostly reforging them for a higher tier.

And I've just run out of maps. Best I have is 2 T13 and 2 T12. I'm out of stuff to reforge.

I've sold only a couple of t15's with like chilled ground and temporal chains, or a combination of high armour break with like crit and stuff. Which would be literally unplayable.

I can't buy ANY t14 or t15 because even if I do a search and click to buy after a COUPLE OF SECONDS THEY'RE ALREADY SOLD AND I CANT BUY ANY.

This is an obvious proof, that the drop chances of waystones are way to low.

Also, why does even chilled ground and temporal chains exist? It's literal unplayable garbage. I could try run, for example, an armour break map if I got some better gear and stuff, but these stupid slows are just unplayable whatever I do. Makes no sense for this crap to exist.

Of course I could probably try to buy acrap load of even lower tiers and then reforge, but THIS SHOULDN'T BE A THING WHEN I'VE ONLY FAILED LITERALLY 1 MAP SO FAR


Im getting so many waystones I cant even sell them because its not worth the time it takes to put one by one into the merchant so I just end up vendoring them. And I dont even have any waypoint passive nodes.

I think the problem might be that having more affixes on the map affect waystone drop rate. So if your build isnt strong enough to do rare versions on T15 maps then you should probably just do T13 or T14 so you can do rare maps that give you more waypoint drop chance.
Literally every single PoE league people have been complaining that map sustain is bad, and it has not even once been true.
nothing to do with sustain

people are spamming 1 tower for 30 abysses/hour and need maps ;)
d:-D*

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