PLEASE let us bind abilities to scroll up/down

bump, talking to support again about this again and it looks hopeless we need more attention to this

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AintCare#6513 wrote:

bump, talking to support again about this again and it looks hopeless we need more attention to this

I'm pretty sure they made their stance on macros clear years ago and it hasn't changed; I really don't know what you mean by "it looks hopeless" or what you expect support to say that hasn't already been said.

There are two rules about macros:
- Any macro must perform a single in-game action per user input - one manual key = one game action; so you can bind mwheelup to an ability key, but you can't make it enter a sequence of abilities or press multiple keys simultaneously
- Macros must be triggered manually; no automation via timers or triggers

Stick to these rules and I promise you you're going to be fine.

There's absolutely no way they're out here banning people for rebinding keys; like Logictech devices are basically pre-packaged with keybinds if you run G Hub (which many people do). They would be banning hundreds of thousands of players... it's not happening.

I have several skills bound to the keys on the side of my Logitech mouse. It's how I've always played the game - PoE1 included.

If you want to use AHK that's fine as well as long as you're sticking to these rules but I have no idea why you would need to use it to just rebind keys on your mouse.

And yeah it's 2025 if it's a "headache" for you to rebind a key I don't know what to tell you except that it shouldn't be.

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Kerchunk#7797 wrote:

And yeah it's 2025 if it's a "headache" for you to rebind a key I don't know what to tell you except that it shouldn't be.

It's more than a headache, especially for scroll up/down.

I have a super nerdy specialty mouse for FPS games, the software for it does not have auto profile switching. So I can't make scroll wheel act as I wish only in certain games.

Once you rebind scroll up/down you can no longer scroll. In game, out of game, wherever.

It IS indeed 2025. This should absolutely just be a default option.

I have seen some people argue that they won't do it because some mice from nearly a decade ago have free spinning wheels but that's a nonsense argument.
It would be basically trivial for them to implement a rate cap/limit.

There's no good reason that we shouldn't have this.

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JODYHiGHR0LLER#6171 wrote:

It's more than a headache, especially for scroll up/down.

I have a super nerdy specialty mouse for FPS games, the software for it does not have auto profile switching. So I can't make scroll wheel act as I wish only in certain games.

Guy, I have a "super nerdy" specialty mouse and keyboard too. They allow me to remap absolutely any key or button on either device to any other key or button or sequence of such separated by random or pre-defined delays or open applications or execute custom code that I've written.

Like I'm sorry but GGG isn't going to devote developer resources to write custom code because you bought some ridiculous mouse that apparently lacks absolutely basic functionality that anyone buying a "super nerdy" device in 2025 should expect.

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There's no good reason that we shouldn't have this.

There's no good reason your mouse should be preventing you from remapping its keys, dude. I don't care how "nerdy" it is, it's still using the Windows (or your OS's) hardware API so it's not doing anything my mouse isn't doing except preventing you from remapping keys or managing profiles.

Just get a different mouse dude. GGG has better things to do.

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Kerchunk#7797 wrote:

Like I'm sorry but GGG isn't going to devote developer resources to write custom code

They are a software company, that's literally what they do.

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Kerchunk#7797 wrote:

it's still using the Windows (or your OS's) hardware API

Something like WM_MOUSEWHEEL inside of winuser.h?

Ruhroh, someone thought their GPT of choice could make them sound like they understand a language lol

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pattw555#0071 wrote:

as long as 1 action = 1 input you're good.

But that's not the case now is it?
The reason people use mouse wheel is that 1 scroll leads to 1000 actions.

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MagosX#1099 wrote:

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pattw555#0071 wrote:

as long as 1 action = 1 input you're good.

But that's not the case now is it?
The reason people use mouse wheel is that 1 scroll leads to 1000 actions.

I can make my keyboard do the same thing.
Anyone with a typical gaming mouse can make any mouse button do the same thing.

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AintCare#6513 wrote:

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pattw555#0071 wrote:

Pretty simple workaround in the meantime - bind scroll up / scroll down to different keys, i.e. scroll up is bound to "," scroll down is bound to "." then bind those keys to abilities.

Almost all mouse software out there lets you do this, and it's almost certainly within the rules, as generally when it comes to rebinds as long as 1 action = 1 input you're good.

its all great and all but run this by support and ask if it's ok. no matter how you phrase this question you will get a very obfuscated HR themed no, without them actually saying 'no'.

'almost certainly' i like that

if they would prohibiting rebinding single keys with software....they would get big backlash...just take players as example which are disabled or have a illness which affect hands?!

srsly sometimes a littlebit thinking would help everybody and especially deflate silly support requests.... xD

EDIT: it would be even more silly if you think about the fact that if they dont allow rebinding keys with software, nobody could play anymore with windows and keyboards.... since as example if i switch my qwertz to qwerty with windows shortcut would already be a ToS violation at that point...since its remapping Y and Z and all the other stuff xD

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MagosX#1099 wrote:

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pattw555#0071 wrote:

as long as 1 action = 1 input you're good.

But that's not the case now is it?
The reason people use mouse wheel is that 1 scroll leads to 1000 actions.

correct, this is why ToS explicitly states 'key strokes' and 'button presses'.

i can't do with this forum anymore. why is this tolerated?