Mercenaries need to go core!

Yep, let's integrate. And complain in adjacent topic "Why is league dead after a month, we need a new one, GGG please". Ofc it's dead if even new players kills ubers after a month of play.
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Yep, let's integrate. And complain in adjacent topic "Why is league dead after a month, we need a new one, GGG please". Ofc it's dead if even new players kills ubers after a month of play.


Let's be real, leagues already start to die way before "new" players reach aperational content past week 4. And that's not because of new introduced league features. People just test out new stuff, get a solid char up within the first month and eventually move over to other games or projects. That has always been the nature of PoE and mercs going core wouldn't change that in the slightest.
Flames and madness. I'm so glad I didn't miss the fun.
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Pashid#4643 wrote:
People get a solid char up within the first month and eventually move over to other games. Mercs going core wouldn't change that in the slightest.

Yep, "wouldn't change that in the slightest". And then i remember Zizaran's comment about battle of one guy vs pinnacle boss - "merc gives him around 3m dps, it't around half of his total dps". Ofc getting 2x power for the same amount of time doesn't affect league online even the "slightest".
people quit because they aggressively believe in 'one character per league' concept

im not saying it is their fault, GGG is to blame here too making re-leveling unfun chore

if you play the game as Mathil does - the league is always too short with so many cool things to explore, so many wack builds to try and garbage uniques to test

but if you play just one character you miss all of that for the sake of 'getting mageblood and 40/40 on the best character GGG managed to miss to balance'



mercenaries going or not going (they should go but with 5% of current power) core wont change that
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"merc gives him around 3m dps, it't around half of his total dps". Ofc getting 2x power for the same amount of time doesn't affect league online even the "slightest".


Said individual person would also be fine doing the exact same content without mercs and would invest the exact time in playing the game.
Others with different goals in mind are also not affected by having access to mercs.

Most play and min max one character, simply try out the new leagues content, or speedrun their 40/40 and those players playtime is not affected in the slightest. They leave fairly early in the league no matter what. And those who choose to play multiple characters over a longer time are also not affected as they spend more time in the game anyways, in fact mercs would be a well rounded addition for all types of players.
Casuals get a little bit of hand fed player power and advanced players get to mess more around with min-maxing. This is honestly one of the few league mechanics aimed towards all players and not just a certain part of the playerbase.
Flames and madness. I'm so glad I didn't miss the fun.
Last edited by Pashid#4643 on Sep 5, 2025, 4:45:06 AM
Harvest bad, game in a sad state, but mercs fine, pathetic.
Mercs are just pure stat sticks aka power creep, remove pls.
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Latze#2058 wrote:
Harvest bad, game in a sad state, but mercs fine, pathetic.
Not sure what you're on about with Harvest but I appreciate you bumping this thread. o/
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Pashid#4643 wrote:

Said individual person would also be fine doing the exact same content without mercs and would invest the exact time in playing the game.
Others with different goals in mind are also not affected by having access to mercs.


This is literally the opposite of truth.

"said individual" would be incapable of doing the exact same content altogether without mercs. Many newer players have explicitly stated this, even within THIS thread. "This was the first time I was able to kill ubers!" or complete x content. Rather than learn and practice the content, they are now able to simply out-power it far sooner than they would have in any other previous PoE setting.

Additionally, when the game becomes easier thanks to merc crazy power boost...naturally it takes LESS TIME to complete. And since mercs offer bandaids over lots of bad build choices, we are left with a quicker, easier game that requires less thought...and therefore less TIME investment. That says nothing about actual boss DESIGN choices that an additional 50% powerboost (or more) will inevitably lead to. Remember back when the OG Shaper was a HARD fight? Why do we now have DOUBLE uber shaper? Because power went out of control and it affected EVERYONE.

Starting anew....with PoE 2
Last edited by cowmoo275#3095 on Sep 7, 2025, 12:30:46 PM
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Pashid#4643 wrote:

Said individual person would also be fine doing the exact same content without mercs and would invest the exact time in playing the game.
Others with different goals in mind are also not affected by having access to mercs.


This is literally the opposite of truth.

"said individual" would be incapable of doing the exact same content altogether without mercs. Many newer players have explicitly stated this, even within THIS thread. "This was the first time I was able to kill ubers!" or complete x content. Rather than learn and practice the content, they are now able to simply out-power it far sooner than they would have in any other previous PoE setting.

Additionally, when the game becomes easier thanks to merc crazy power boost...naturally it takes LESS TIME to complete. And since mercs offer bandaids over lots of bad build choices, we are left with a quicker, easier game that requires less thought...and therefore less TIME investment. That says nothing about actual boss DESIGN choices that an additional 50% powerboost (or more) will inevitably lead to. Remember back when the OG Shaper was a HARD fight? Why do we now have DOUBLE uber shaper? Because power went out of control and it affected EVERYONE.



Lol cowmoo you're right, Idk why this person has the views that they do but i have been butting heads with their logic for many years now.

We do have to be careful what we wish for, the consequences are often worse when we are in a rush to reach the solution.
Innocence forgives you
Last edited by SilentSymphony#3358 on Sep 7, 2025, 12:36:19 PM
They could go core in the same way you get wildwood or sentinels. Sometimes you get a juicy merc for one map.

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