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I think its in most peoples nature to just complain and put people down.
That's funny, considering what you wrote first :
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I feel like there's a lot of soy boy complainers that have nothing better to do than to just complain in the forums about everything and and a bunch more that just stir the pot. And a bunch of them are just big babies. If they don't get what they want right now they cry and b*ch till they get what they want. Hopefully GGG doesn't give in.
Thanks for the attempt at positivity I guess. Would be way more plausible if there wasn't this unnecessary toxicity killing any credibility.
In the end your "positivity" appears like white knighting.
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Posted byrob_korn#1745on May 14, 2025, 5:46:50 PM
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We've stepped back from the age of supercomputers and now we can build pyramids. Or we're just inventing fire. But at least the view is nice.
Really, thanks Jonathan, the father of the seven visions. Good work, clap.
Bro we might need some help from the aliens here if we want to go anywhere.
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Posted byLFA01#0120on May 14, 2025, 5:59:35 PM
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I think its in most peoples nature to just complain and put people down.
That's funny, considering what you wrote first :
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I feel like there's a lot of soy boy complainers that have nothing better to do than to just complain in the forums about everything and and a bunch more that just stir the pot. And a bunch of them are just big babies. If they don't get what they want right now they cry and b*ch till they get what they want. Hopefully GGG doesn't give in.
Thanks for the attempt at positivity I guess. Would be way more plausible if there wasn't this unnecessary toxicity killing any credibility.
In the end your "positivity" appears like white knighting.
I mean, you have to have some fun. Not all angels have white wings ;)
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Posted byTosiek530#7984on May 14, 2025, 6:35:28 PM
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thanks OP +1
But this is not POE 1.
I love this game and even semi retired to play (seriously).
My only complaint is the EXP loss im level 97 (just hit 20% took 5 days, minion build) dont normally die but i have empathy for others that do and they dont want to lose progress because of A,B,C.
Put yourself in other peoples shoes just because you got used to an outdated psychological tactic from older games does not mean it is just.
I have seen no good arguments or posts to show why its a good idea, any psych journals or data that proves its a good thing. If so please post so others can understand.
GGG can you show this data please? just saying its in POE 1 is pointless, most of us here have not played POE 1.
Drop rate didnt really effect me, im fully geared but i feel the pain of others and happy GGG fixed this.
Just try understand why people feel a certain way.
GGG deserve there flowers and i have bought all the packs, i wont buy another until they make the next changes i like.
Pavlov's Dogs, most dont even wonder why there loot filter makes a sound for a good drop, its classical conditioning.
These games all use these ploys, ffs people need to read more.
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I am a Dog and i will just drop my load and leave on to the next post Last edited by Krym0r3#7733 on May 14, 2025, 7:03:52 PM
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Posted byKrym0r3#7733on May 14, 2025, 7:02:47 PM
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thanks OP +1
But this is not POE 1.
I love this game and even semi retired to play (seriously).
You should've really stopped here.
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My only complaint is the EXP loss im level 97 (just hit 20% took 5 days, minion build) dont normally die but i have empathy for others that do and they dont want to lose progress because of A,B,C.
Oh really? Are you sure you wanna stick with that? Being semi retired and as god of a gamer as you're portraying yourself to be, you should be level 100 by now.
Maybe you just died here and there, which wiped your 'progress' and are simply salty - in which case there's nothing wrong with that, besides trying to dress it up as faux empathy for others.
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Put yourself in other peoples shoes just because you got used to an outdated psychological tactic from older games does not mean it is just.
I have seen no good arguments or posts to show why its a good idea, any psych journals or data that proves its a good thing. If so please post so others can understand.
You've seen no good arguments in 'psych journals' supporting the idea that things requiring effort could be viewed as valuable - or 'good' as you state it? I suggest you go and actually look.
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GGG can you show this data please? just saying its in POE 1 is pointless, most of us here have not played POE 1.
The burden of proof is on you, my friend, not them. You are making nonsensical claims and expecting the other party to defend themselves. The real world doesn't work that way.
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Drop rate didnt really effect me, im fully geared but i feel the pain of others and happy GGG fixed this.
I'm sure you do, batman. What have they fixed specifically that you thought was lacking before? Care to share that with me?
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Just try understand why people feel a certain way.
One can empathise with how other people feel and still disagree with their point of view. Do you comprehend that simple concept?
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GGG deserve there flowers and i have bought all the packs, i wont buy another until they make the next changes i like.
Now you sound like a child who is threatening their mom that they won't behave unless they get the toy. Demanding things via ultimatums is not how healthy adults function. I can tell you for a fact that there is a lot of literature in 'psych journals' supporting this claim.
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Pavlov's Dogs, most dont even wonder why there loot filter makes a sound for a good drop, its classical conditioning.
You have a problem here, chief. You modified that loot filter to make that distinct 'tink sound' when something valuable drops. This is not classical conditioning, but simply self conditioning.
Most people - including you - play this game for cheap dopamine hits. Trying to portray this in the negative makes you look silly.
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These games all use these ploys, ffs people need to read more.
Buyer's remorse?
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Posted byarandan#3174on May 14, 2025, 7:55:33 PM
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The post above this is another one. People can't help themselves it seems. This is this guys opinion. No need to Karen his whole post sentence by sentence.
KryM0R3 is right. I agree with him. More posts need to be like that. Too much hate in the forums for everyone. It's gotto stop. A whole lot of toxicity. People can't post opinions anymore it seems.
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Posted byTosiek530#7984on May 14, 2025, 8:04:45 PM
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The post above this is another one. People can't help themselves it seems. This is this guys opinion. No need to Karen his whole post sentence by sentence.
Here is something I need you to understand. When you voice your opinion publicly you should expect it to be challenged. That is what a discussion forum is about. Opinions are exchanged and argued. Clear?
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KryM0R3 is right. I agree with him. More posts need to be like that. Too much hate in the forums for everyone. It's gotto stop. A whole lot of toxicity. People can't post opinions anymore it seems.
Define 'opinion' for me. While you're at it, explain to me how you're not diminishing mine with your post and being toxic and hateful by doing so.
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Posted byarandan#3174on May 14, 2025, 8:14:05 PM
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The post above this is another one. People can't help themselves it seems. This is this guys opinion. No need to Karen his whole post sentence by sentence.
Here is something I need you to understand. When you voice your opinion publicly you should expect it to be challenged. That is what a discussion forum is about. Opinions are exchanged and argued. Clear?
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KryM0R3 is right. I agree with him. More posts need to be like that. Too much hate in the forums for everyone. It's gotto stop. A whole lot of toxicity. People can't post opinions anymore it seems.
Define 'opinion' for me. While you're at it, explain to me how you're not diminishing mine with your post and being toxic and hateful by doing so.
You're the gift that keeps on giving. =)
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Posted byTosiek530#7984on May 14, 2025, 8:36:42 PM
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Just wanted to say thank you GGG for POE2. Not many people are doing that. Overall I think the game is great, and I'm at almost 700hrs played so far with POE2 and 1,700hrs in POE1.
Does it need some work? Sure, but that's the same feeling I had with POE1 the first few years as well. And overall the bones of the game are really really good. Will there be bad seasons that might go in a bad direction? Sure, there were more than a handful of leagues in POE1.
I feel like there's a lot of soy boy complainers that have nothing better to do than to just complain in the forums about everything and and a bunch more that just stir the pot. And a bunch of them are just big babies. If they don't get what they want right now they cry and b*ch till they get what they want. Hopefully GGG doesn't give in.
The towers and waystones? GGG will figure it out. Plenty of competent people have GGG's ear and they will eventually adjust it and get it where its supposed to be. Whatever changes were positive and trying to fix the gameplay of it.
EXP on death? POE1 has this and its fine for like... a bunch of years. Stop being little B*chs.
Only a few meta builds? Sure, same crap happens with PoE1, this will be balanced out the next few seasons. Hopefully they keep some of the more non meta builds viable with every seasons of changes and nerfs. Builds like RF/Pconc/ect from POE1 come to mind.
Crafting being too RNG? everyone forgot about the first few years of POE1 huh. Its already being slowly changed and added onto. Fracturing, recombinators, ect.
Overall, I really enjoy the pacing of the campaign and it doesn't feel like a chore that POE1 was.
I'm amazed at the amount of changes and balances happening here since beta release. I was expecting this to drag out over multiple years. GGG has been delivering so far while trying to keep POE1 going.
Overall the game is at a good base. And it will grow into something better. And from the looks of it its going to happen fairly quickly.
The only thing I will say is that GGG needs to start middle adjusting. I know the streamers dedicating 30 hour days to this game get bored quickly, but the game needs more middle balancing. There's a bunch of people I know that don't play because they can't dedicate the time or effort to get into the game as much as the 12h gaming session gamers.
Thanks again GGG! And there's nothing wrong with saying some things might be off and the adjustments take time and for people to have some patience. It's freakin early access for God sakes...
All of this 1000%
You forgot that those same people point to the numbers POE 2 currently has and fail to mention that even on a good season of POE 1 it had the same or lower numbers lol
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Posted byHyperspacing#5593on May 14, 2025, 8:53:55 PM
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