"ALSO Fubgun quit SO yea, I quit too."

I mean, if you're his gf or bf, I get it, but come on you're letting a streamer (who only specializes in hardcore endgame mapping) tell you what games are worth playing?

strange post to make.
but i fully agree with most of his points, i just watched the video.
numbers are dwindling too, ggg needs to wake up and stop being stubborn.

sometimes u need to be an adult and stop saying me me me.
i know jonathan has his vision for the game, but thousands are leaving and not agreeing with this vision.

i personally still enjoy the game but till when i don't know.

Agreed. BUT - if a guy who makes a living off streaming a game, and plays every league for weeks when it comes out, quits this early - it should send a message to the devs that something is clearly wrong with the game. I hope it does.

GGG does need to fix the endgame, I agree with all of his points, there is TOO much friction in endgame, and I told my regular group I fkin hate rolling maps and tablets. Rogue exiles are zzz content with no sense of excitement.

His departure will be missed for sure.

People like Fubgun are the canary in the coal mine and you shouldn't ignore them

They reach endgame way before other people and find it's really boring.

Casual players say 'oh it's a great game, he's just a no-lifer, I'm a dad and I'm 30 hours in, just starting act 2 and I'm having a great time.'

Most those casual player's quit at the end of campaign since they don't really know what ARPGs are and they don't come back for future seasons, they think they've completed the game.

Some people eventually reach endgame and they realise it's boring too. It just takes a couple weeks longer for them.

If it does continue this way, the player count will decline every patch. The casuals won't come back to begin with, and the long term players won't because its boring AF.

i concur with the fubinator

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jimbe4mXL#6156 wrote:

Agreed. BUT - if a guy who makes a living off streaming a game, and plays every league for weeks when it comes out, quits this early - it should send a message to the devs that something is clearly wrong with the game. I hope it does.

This might be an unpopular opinion but I just don't think we should base the design of the entire game off a single streamer's views.

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vexorian#9572 wrote:

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jimbe4mXL#6156 wrote:

Agreed. BUT - if a guy who makes a living off streaming a game, and plays every league for weeks when it comes out, quits this early - it should send a message to the devs that something is clearly wrong with the game. I hope it does.

This might be an unpopular opinion but I just don't think we should base the design of the entire game off a single streamer's views.

What about the opinion of dozens of streamers and thousands of players? Is that enough? Cause that is where we are actually at right now.

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vexorian#9572 wrote:

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jimbe4mXL#6156 wrote:

Agreed. BUT - if a guy who makes a living off streaming a game, and plays every league for weeks when it comes out, quits this early - it should send a message to the devs that something is clearly wrong with the game. I hope it does.

This might be an unpopular opinion but I just don't think we should base the design of the entire game off a single streamer's views.

but it isnt a Single streamer,

its all of them,

Ruetwo, Zizaran, Steelmage, Quinn69, Ben, Fubgun, Darthmicro, just to name a few.

when your biggest streamers of the game stream and are shitting on it,

AKA you FREE UNPAID Advertisements.

your not going to get a good show.

yes you can say, oh well he is just mimicing his crowd of people.

but at the end of the day, the streamers get people to flock to the games they are playing, and play the games with their viewers/streamers more often than you think.

Empyreangaming didnt even steam/play this league, unsure why but i think he and his team read the patch notes and were like im having none of this.

ive watched Empyrean every league launch, i like his content and sub,

it just annoys me the GGG Mods/Admin, are going to keep saying **You Think you do but you dont**, yes i know thats a Blizzard quote, but how wrong where blizzard,

they said no to classic for years, and now its its own branching franchise with hundreds of thousands of players, yes it has diversified the crowd, but it kept the crowd.

what GGG is diversifying the crowd to other games, not their own.

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vexorian#9572 wrote:

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jimbe4mXL#6156 wrote:

Agreed. BUT - if a guy who makes a living off streaming a game, and plays every league for weeks when it comes out, quits this early - it should send a message to the devs that something is clearly wrong with the game. I hope it does.

This might be an unpopular opinion but I just don't think we should base the design of the entire game off a single streamer's views.

Also agreed. But you think its only him? Most popular poe streamers are already playing or making guides for LE, and getting ready for league start. Like, why would they do it 1+ week in a fresh big patch for their main game? Lily, Allie, Palsteron, Steelmage etc all doing LE content. Hardcore poe streaers. Ziz doing a race. If even your die hard content creators are dropping, it should send a message dont you think? Also all the feedback forum section is complaints. Loot, balance, endgame etc. Ive played many leagues in poe1, never had ive seen so much negativity about a league like this right now. Cheers.