Add Grim Feast back, help save the game.

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Direfell#7544 wrote:
I'm fine with grim feast being gone. Really missing shock siphon though.

Convalescence seems dumb. Not saying its bad. But using an entire skill slot for an ES flask with a spirit cost and 30s cool down? I just don't want that in my playstyle but there's hardly any options now.


Eternal Youth also exists though, so that's not really an argument. ES has insane recovery options with just those two things.

ES is still the best effective HP in the game for any character not stacking strength (so literally only Warrior HP is good on)
Last edited by AverBeg7#1689 on Apr 16, 2025, 5:51:16 PM
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AverBeg7#1689 wrote:
Grim Feast was disgustingly broken and should have never passed testing. Literally everyone was using it, was better than any other recovery or defense even if you had a very small amount of ES

Ok sure but they didn't replace it with anything and now everyone is running around with 2000 health, getting slapped to shit. Even if you go all out on Strength and max life on your gear you might get 3000 or so health. You can't take any good energy shield nodes if you don't start from sorceress position so ES is basically a non-option without grim feast and the other defenses suck. Low priority to fix the 3 main defenses in the game though, i get it
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Ok sure but they didn't replace it with anything and now everyone is running around with 2000 health


Warriors with strength are doing fine with HP, everyone is playing dex/evasion characters so yeah the best way to get effective HP is going to be hybrid ES/EV gear and nodes. Seems like that's pretty intended and fine though.
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They took it out with the intention of fixing it and re-introducing it later. I don't really get why as the only thing needed to fix it was to have it not add any energy shield above the maximum. Not rocket science. This would put it basically in the same realm as jewels that give 2% of life on kill


That is not the only thing they needed to change. Grim feasts main problem is that it negates the biggest weakness of energy shield, which is sustain. Bonus ES was just the cherry on top.
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AverBeg7#1689 wrote:

Eternal Youth also exists though, so that's not really an argument. ES has insane recovery options with just those two things.


I play a low-life build, if my life flask is recovering ES than bleed/poison will kill me if applied.

So there's 2 options, 1 makes me dead and the other takes too much space to fit into my build.
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Last edited by Direfell#7544 on Apr 16, 2025, 5:54:28 PM
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AverBeg7#1689 wrote:
Grim Feast was disgustingly broken and should have never passed testing. Literally everyone was using it, was better than any other recovery or defense even if you had a very small amount of ES

Ok sure but they didn't replace it with anything and now everyone is running around with 2000 health, getting slapped to shit. Even if you go all out on Strength and max life on your gear you might get 3000 or so health. You can't take any good energy shield nodes if you don't start from sorceress position so ES is basically a non-option without grim feast and the other defenses suck. Low priority to fix the 3 main defenses in the game though, i get it


They replaced it with convalescence and it's good. If you want to play armor/es you go zealot's oath and regen stacking. Grim feast completely destroyed any need to build anything to make ES work.
Last edited by Kashou#2868 on Apr 16, 2025, 5:55:25 PM
It has a 30 second cooldown

cooldowns are not and have never been fun
The game needs a lot of buffs but the answer is not broken grim feast.
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It has a 30 second cooldown

cooldowns are not and have never been fun


Then figure something else out. Grim feast was terrible and I am glad it is gone.
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Direfell#7544 wrote:


I play a low-life build, if my life flask is recovering ES than bleed/poison will kill me if applied.

So there's 2 options, 1 makes me dead and the other takes too much space to fit into my build.


I don't think I've been applied with bleed by anything except things that say "always bleed", pretty sure poison (chaos) just does double damage to ES, doesn't bypass it?

There must be a way to fit one of them in. Ventors, spirit on chest, amulet, drop one skill you don't use often, idk. It's your build you will work it out. Hardly seems like a lack of Grim Feast issue.

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