To anyone thinking Bleed Ritualist is bad

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DISCLAIMER
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so, i never recorded anything, let alone upload a video. was quite a struggle, sorry for missing the Waystone at the start when putting it in. i thought i had it on my record but i then spent 30+min just to get the recording actually working. amd radeon killed my fps, fraps didn't work (dunno why, auto-deleted the file while recording), but eventually i figured the right settings out in amd software. but i had a constant microstutter, i'm very happy i don't have to keep recording x)

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- it's T3, the highest i have rn, i actually recombined T2's just for this vid.
- it was a blue Waystone, with +rarity items, and iirc +monster count?
- and it's corruption map.

- also pls note, i did not Blood Hunt the upper grp and rather pulled them to the lower grp, just to show much much dmg is going through without me finishing them. i could've just killed them instead.

- and while you may say i'm overgeared for T3, pls check my skills. almost all of them are lvl14, despite being lvl70 and thus should have lvl16 skills (don't have any gems). i also am missing quite a lot of support gem slots.

- nonetheless, i'm very confident i could play a T4 or even T5 like that. my dmg is just nuts. and the enemies dmg doesn't matter when they don't hit me (and if they do, i'm likely dead anyway so doesn't matter that much either --> tryhard playstyle)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZShvTb789U


so stop freaking trying to ruin my playstyle. if you can't do it, it's you, not the game, and not the bleed, or the Ritualist, or anything. just you, or your build. it's TRYHARD PLAYSTYLE ffs
this really bothers me and affects my mental health.

you casuals can have 95% of the game. just gimme these 5%
pls GGG, it's all i have. pls don't ruin this playstyle. the casuals have SO MANY OPTIONS to choose from, just give us tryhards this one thing. please i'm begging you!

i also will try to make a proper, more longer video soon. most likely tomorrow, then i also will have higher Tier Waystone and will show it!

and keep in mind, i picked a very narrow map on purpose. on an open map i.e. desert, or grass land, it's way easier to do the exact same thing, and thus it's even more op.

dear GGG pls nerf the dmg, don't remove the playstyle.
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3756523
i'm begging you!

edit: and i also do not have any +Quality on any skills!

edit2: on open maps, i pull that many enemies (multiple screens worth of enemies) at once, and kill them all at once, which actually causes issues and i have a slide show the moment they popp (just too many calculations at once)

it's you guys and/or your builds. pls just gimme those 5% and you can have 95% of the game for yourself. THANKS!

You should show boss fight, but imo this feels slow and weak.

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desper940#2462 wrote:

You should show boss fight, but imo this feels slow and weak.

noted. but i do wanna say, single target obviously is not good. it's dot build. dot builds excel at killing many many enemies at once, but lack single target dps. that's the archetype as is. you can't have everything while being balanced :-)

and yes it does start off very slowly, again, it's dot. but they all popp "at once" kinda. i can do the same with several screens full of enemies, but then i have to go to a bigger map to not get body blocked too much. it's difficult to navigate with microstutters (recording). maybe i can fix that however *fingers crossed*

proper melee-dot ftw!

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Naztrey#9177 wrote:

noted. but i do wanna say, single target obviously is not good. it's dot build. dot builds excel at killing many many enemies at once, but lack single target dps. that's the archetype as is. you can't have everything while being balanced :-)

Sorry OP thats just a bad dot build :p though in PoE2 terms its mostly because ailments are extremely weak aside from poison. Single target doesn't have to be bad, DoT builds inherently have strengths/weaknesses as it is.

Put another way it isn't like hit builds are bad at AoE is it? Its just another way to deal damage.

Bro, you're talking about T3-T5s like it's something challenging..

What?????


I'm playing SSF in T11s atm. What's your excuse? wtf

/played is 1 day & 10 hrs. You? We're playing different games.

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HwtChirino#2462 wrote:

Bro, you're talking about T3-T5s like it's something challenging..

What?????


I'm playing SSF in T11s atm. What's your excuse? wtf

/played is 1 day & 10 hrs. You? We're playing different games.

I think he is talking T3 rare gear.. not T3 maps.

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HwtChirino#2462 wrote:

Bro, you're talking about T3-T5s like it's something challenging..

What?????


I'm playing SSF in T11s atm. What's your excuse? wtf

/played is 1 day & 10 hrs. You? We're playing different games.

as i clearly wrote, it's just that i don't have a higher tier yet dude. gimme waystone and i'll do :P
and what does that playtime matter. you don't even know how much of that is spent on passive tree, inventory management, or just plain afk (like sitting here in this forum, as an example)


anyway:
some quick clear i just stumbled upon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd_ECoAepvU
i think that highlights pretty well so the amount of enemies doesn't matter, because that's just how dot builds work. wether i have to kill 10, or 100. it's gonna take the same time (just need to dodge em all).

and that boss that was asked about. as said, dot builds don't excel at single target dps, quite the contrary. yet i figured i just kill both at the same time, cuz fun is important!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7P32rZxUEc

edit: and to make it very clear, though i hoped i already did that. this is not to say "look how good i am" or anything, i know i'm old and rusty myself, thx.
i just try to get the point across, so melee-dot is not bad at all. and that just cuz ppl struggle, doesn't mean it needs to be buffed imho. and mostly, to not have that entire playstyle removed because GGG tries to balance this specific playstyle around casuals. that's the point, thx

btw i'm fully aware so i'm crippling myself by going overboard with attack speed. it's just how i roll, i love it. that's all :-)
it certainly would be a much stronger build if i had any points into crit chance, other than dispatch foes and perfectly balanced knife. but who cares, it's what i like.

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Draegnarrr#2823 wrote:

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Naztrey#9177 wrote:

noted. but i do wanna say, single target obviously is not good. it's dot build. dot builds excel at killing many many enemies at once, but lack single target dps. that's the archetype as is. you can't have everything while being balanced :-)

Sorry OP thats just a bad dot build :p though in PoE2 terms its mostly because ailments are extremely weak aside from poison. Single target doesn't have to be bad, DoT builds inherently have strengths/weaknesses as it is.

Put another way it isn't like hit builds are bad at AoE is it? Its just another way to deal damage.

yeah that statement, i dunno. i tried to ignore it, but it's following me around.

1st: "not good" does not mean bad. you're implying stuff i didn't say. i did not say it is bad.

2nd: if you wanna have a build, that is good at everything at once (emphasis on good), you'll likely end up complaining about nerfs once they hit. cuz why should any build be good at everything at once.

idk mate. if you wanna have a build that is great at aoe, you also will suffer from single target dps, unlike when you specc full single target dps, in which case your aoe will lack size/dmg or that. like do you really want everything in a single build, and not have that nerfed? maybe i'm misinterpreting you however. no offense mate

edit: a build that would be good at everything, would just force ppl into the same build. diversity will be gone, cuz many ppl care more about strength > fun. and yeah, we know how that goes when a few builds are dominating the meta. it's not good for a game imho

I play bleed ritualist and i think it sucks.

Especially since bleed is mostly meele focust and with rake/bloodhunt you charge to the enemy and will get punched, while lightning spear player do big aoe clear on distance.

As long they don't change rake into a flickerstrike skill or give bleed build some better defence.

I can't recommand playing bleed.