Consider not posting feedback with the mindset of a spoiled brat

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TalishS#1061 wrote:

Perhaps people haven't ever learned how to phrase feedback, critiques, reviews and such or maybe some just get too overwhelmed by their emotions or actually think whinging is effective or just want to rant. Whatever is behind it I thought I would point out that it's hard to take those kind of responses seriously whatever field one is in. The same goes for responses that come across as speaking for all players. Now it doesn't affect me at all how people phrase their feedback I'm just another player, I don't work for nor claim to speak for GGG specifically. I'm merely pointing out that assumptions aren't generally a useful or accurate tool, just tend to cause a lot of eye-rolling.


Consider stating what it is that you dislike/want changed without implying;
-that everyone else feels the same
-that if your complaint is ignored then no one cares
-that they aren't listening
-that they are out of touch with the player base
-that they just care/don't care about a certain subset of the player base e.g. the top 1%, the HC, the SC, newbies, people with a life, people without a life, streamers or people whose skills suck so terribly they die all the time.

Feedback will sound far more mature if you state your desired changes or dislikes without the 'mom he's being mean vibe'

Not saying don't be passionate, absolutely be clear on how bad/good a certain aspect of the game feels to you and importantly why it feels that way.
--Maze like maps with a myriad dead ends are frustrating you, state why it's frustrating-takes too long to clear, my buff/charges expire, I already have to backtrack because of flicker strike
--Endless atlas is great but not being able to zoom out farther and have some form of coordinate system or being able to put markers/pins on the atlas makes it hard to find that epic area you planned to work on next.

I'd also suggest refraining from coming across as the braggart 'know-it-all'. Unless you're one of their employees you don't actually know how hard/easy something would be to implement/how to implement/ or if they just can't be bothered because you don't have access to all the information informing their decisions.

Now food for thought here complaints such as : not all content is available/too many bugs, the game isn't finished they're developing it while we play, during Early Access probably aren't very helpful. Or necessary.

Cheers Exiles

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People get angry about things. This is still feedback. They come post when they are most angry about it. Something in game made player mad. There is a problem X that makes players angry. Why has X not being fixed? That is feedback of a friction point that perhaps GGG does not see the need to fix. It still "X is bad".

Whether it is being written when you were mad or not doesnt really change things.

It does not need to be in game thing. I can be anger about how something has been handled.

Main thing is that there is discussion about something. Whether it looks like adults talking or children(which might still be just adults), doenst matter. That a matter is brought up is what matters, not exactly how its brought up.

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ZaruenVoresu#5823 wrote:

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TalishS#1061 wrote:

Perhaps people haven't ever learned how to phrase feedback, critiques, reviews and such or maybe some just get too overwhelmed by their emotions or actually think whinging is effective or just want to rant. Whatever is behind it I thought I would point out that it's hard to take those kind of responses seriously whatever field one is in. The same goes for responses that come across as speaking for all players. Now it doesn't affect me at all how people phrase their feedback I'm just another player, I don't work for nor claim to speak for GGG specifically. I'm merely pointing out that assumptions aren't generally a useful or accurate tool, just tend to cause a lot of eye-rolling.


Consider stating what it is that you dislike/want changed without implying;
-that everyone else feels the same
-that if your complaint is ignored then no one cares
-that they aren't listening
-that they are out of touch with the player base
-that they just care/don't care about a certain subset of the player base e.g. the top 1%, the HC, the SC, newbies, people with a life, people without a life, streamers or people whose skills suck so terribly they die all the time.

Feedback will sound far more mature if you state your desired changes or dislikes without the 'mom he's being mean vibe'

Not saying don't be passionate, absolutely be clear on how bad/good a certain aspect of the game feels to you and importantly why it feels that way.
--Maze like maps with a myriad dead ends are frustrating you, state why it's frustrating-takes too long to clear, my buff/charges expire, I already have to backtrack because of flicker strike
--Endless atlas is great but not being able to zoom out farther and have some form of coordinate system or being able to put markers/pins on the atlas makes it hard to find that epic area you planned to work on next.

I'd also suggest refraining from coming across as the braggart 'know-it-all'. Unless you're one of their employees you don't actually know how hard/easy something would be to implement/how to implement/ or if they just can't be bothered because you don't have access to all the information informing their decisions.

Now food for thought here complaints such as : not all content is available/too many bugs, the game isn't finished they're developing it while we play, during Early Access probably aren't very helpful. Or necessary.

Cheers Exiles

You should make yourself an example for others to follow,
Rather than be a preacher of that which you do not practice yourself.

can you please use the template you are requesting others to use?
to make the feedback easier to read of course.

also you're asking people to refrain from giving feedback because it does not fit your personal criteria?

no thanks... people can give feedback however they want, and the only people that should be allowed to dictate what is or is not acceptable ,is GGG.
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not some braggart know it all who does not even work for GGG

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tarloch#1873 wrote:

same could also be said for people saying "leave our game alone, git gud, play something else" etc etc
strange topic dont we have mods to enforce forum guidelines

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In all fairness, people are telling y'all to "leave our game alone/git gud/play something else", and also telling you to stop being shrieking screaming howling caterwauling apes around here, because you all won't bloody shut the hell up about trying to force Grinding Gear to make PoE2 COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY IDENTICAL IN EVERY LAST RESPECT FOREVER to PoE1. Or, of course, screaming like absolute hooligans about how PoE2 should be abandoned immediately to refocus all efforts on PoE1 and never shall GGG try to improve their game ever again.

WE. GET. IT. You like the first game, a lot (even though you're all the exact same people who, once again, scream like absolute lunatics every single time GGG changes anything in PoE1). You hate the new one. You will never change your mind on either of those stances. Cool. Your feedback has been noted and is no longer required, since it will never change.

Please stop making everyone else's lives miserable with this endless screaming dicktrollery?

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Malgeo318#2320 wrote:

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People get angry about things. This is still feedback. They come post when they are most angry about it. Something in game made player mad. There is a problem X that makes players angry. Why has X not being fixed? That is feedback of a friction point that perhaps GGG does not see the need to fix. It still "X is bad".

Whether it is being written when you were mad or not doesnt really change things.

It does not need to be in game thing. I can be anger about how something has been handled.

Main thing is that there is discussion about something. Whether it looks like adults talking or children(which might still be just adults), doenst matter. That a matter is brought up is what matters, not exactly how its brought up.

There is a difference between constructive feedback and "X is Bad" though. There could be a guy that has no idea what he is doing in the game (which alot of people are) then they go on forums and say "Game too hard, XP loss sucks, i die too often" These are not complaints that GGG needs to "fix" just because someone said it.

Its similar to someone saying "just make basic attack kill everything in one shot" it is just nonsense from a dev perspective.

You can make your criticism constructive to what the devs have already built instead of just saying "game bad, ggg dont know what they are doing, uninstall"

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1453R#7804 wrote:

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tarloch#1873 wrote:

same could also be said for people saying "leave our game alone, git gud, play something else" etc etc
strange topic dont we have mods to enforce forum guidelines

In all fairness, people are telling y'all to "leave our game alone/git gud/play something else", and also telling you to stop being shrieking screaming howling caterwauling apes around here, because you all won't bloody shut the hell up about trying to force Grinding Gear to make PoE2 COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY IDENTICAL IN EVERY LAST RESPECT FOREVER to PoE1. Or, of course, screaming like absolute hooligans about how PoE2 should be abandoned immediately to refocus all efforts on PoE1 and never shall GGG try to improve their game ever again.

WE. GET. IT. You like the first game, a lot (even though you're all the exact same people who, once again, scream like absolute lunatics every single time GGG changes anything in PoE1). You hate the new one. You will never change your mind on either of those stances. Cool. Your feedback has been noted and is no longer required, since it will never change.

Please stop making everyone else's lives miserable with this endless screaming dicktrollery?