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outlander19900#0213 wrote:
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outlander19900#0213 wrote:
Honestly . Let people give criticism and stop attacking them. If you have something nice to say they create a thread. I highly doubt anyone will be a child and start attacking you thread.
Same goes for all of you. Let people say what they have to say and stop being petty children. Go to a thread you relate to like everyone else does. Stop sniping other threads like pets children.
If you dont agree go somewhere you can relate.
I have no problem with criticism or feedback if it's based on something solid. But many players (including OP) critize the game while the problem is their build or the way how they play. The game is too punishing only to people who don't know how to play it properly. But insteady of learning and inproving they come here and complain.
You have no right deciding what is valid or not. People can say what they want based on thier gaming experience. How dare you decide if they have a valid reason or not.
Because I know from my own experience that those "issues" can be overcame if a player improves their build or change their approach. Yes there are real issues which need to be adressed but on death penalties aren't one of these. It's like arguing that rules of chess need to be chnged because I can't win against any experienced chess player.
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Posted bySakanabi#6664on Feb 8, 2025, 3:39:51 AM
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In PoE 2, almost everyone can find the reason to not play it. It's too punishing for those who wants relaxing gameplay and not challenging for those who is looking for the challenges. It's phase with meaningful combat is too short for those who like it and too long who those who wants to zoom-zoom. And there is no way to fix it by just polishing and adding content, without completely changing direction of the game. Because if you make it better for one group of players, it will be worse for another one.
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Posted bySuchka_777#4336on Feb 8, 2025, 3:51:45 AM
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In PoE 2, almost everyone can find the reason to not play it. It's too punishing for those who wants relaxing gameplay and not challenging for those who is looking for the challenges. It's phase with meaningful combat is too short for those who like it and too long who those who wants to zoom-zoom. And there is no way to fix it by just polishing and adding content, without completely changing direction of the game. Because if you make it better for one group of players, it will be worse for another one.
I agree. But there are also players (me) who enjoy the game as a whole. I like the challenge and punishment. To me it's exactly how I want it. I also enjoy how slow my character starts and how faster they become with growing power. I don't like zoom-zoom so I don't play it. But overall the game is exactly what I expect from an ARPG.
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Posted bySakanabi#6664on Feb 8, 2025, 4:01:05 AM
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In PoE 2, almost everyone can find the reason to not play it. It's too punishing for those who wants relaxing gameplay and not challenging for those who is looking for the challenges. It's phase with meaningful combat is too short for those who like it and too long who those who wants to zoom-zoom. And there is no way to fix it by just polishing and adding content, without completely changing direction of the game. Because if you make it better for one group of players, it will be worse for another one.
I agree. But there are also players (me) who enjoy the game as a whole. I like the challenge and punishment. To me it's exactly how I want it. I also enjoy how slow my character starts and how faster they become with growing power. I don't like zoom-zoom so I don't play it. But overall the game is exactly what I expect from an ARPG.
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Posted bySakanabi#6664on Feb 8, 2025, 4:01:05 AM
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I don't like zoom-zoom so I don't play it.
But then there is no endgame for you. Well, you can restrain yourself from too powerful skills and items, and forget about things like breaches or ritual, but wouldn't it be more fun if you wouldn't need to, if any content would be available without zoom-zooming and if you could use any skills without transforming gameplay into meaningless zoom-zoom?
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Posted bySuchka_777#4336on Feb 8, 2025, 4:20:16 AM
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I don't like zoom-zoom so I don't play it.
But then there is no endgame for you. Well, you can restrain yourself from too powerful skills and items, and forget about things like breaches or ritual, but wouldn't it be more fun if you wouldn't need to, if any content would be available without zoom-zooming?
Yes, I agree. Zoom-zoom need to be and probably will be toned down. Breaches and Rituals are perfectly doable without meta builds (even with something like Molten Blast warrior) it's just not the most effective way.
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Posted bySakanabi#6664on Feb 8, 2025, 4:23:34 AM
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But people who only wants to zoom-zoom will not be happy about it, and since it might be majority of PoE 1 players, GGG might listen to them, Idk. Well, will see how it will go.
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Posted bySuchka_777#4336on Feb 8, 2025, 4:26:05 AM
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But people who only wants to zoom-zoom will not be happy about it, and since it might be majority of PoE 1 players, GGG might listen to them, Idk. Well, will see how it will go.
And for those players there is PoE 1. Making these two games different is the main reason why both exist together.
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Posted bySakanabi#6664on Feb 8, 2025, 4:44:47 AM
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And for those players there is PoE 1. Making these two games different is the main reason why both exist together.
I just not sure if GGG already realized it. Right before EA launch, they said that if PoE 1 players will not be happy with PoE 2, they would consider it as a fail.
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Posted bySuchka_777#4336on Feb 8, 2025, 4:48:02 AM
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Mapping in end game feels like a unique form of torture right now, if you make even the slightest mistake you might as well quit the game for the rest of the night, and you are ENCOURAGED to quit. Any one punishment might be fine, but you get NO more juiced map, NO more juiced waystone, NO more exp. might as well slot in a fucking tier 1 and run your little walk of shame. It's not fun, it's not FAIR, and it's not GOOD. It's so hard to see othen with all the flashy effects and too dark maps, Delirium is a suicide device, and any basic bitch enemy can jump in from off-screen to insta gib you at any point.
I might be just repeating often said views and points, but for fuck's sake it has to be said, and it has to be heard.
Agreed.
And the worst worst worst part of Mapping?
Is the Forum Trolls who come here with their elitism to tell you that you're wrong about everything.
That to me is the worst most punishing aspect of the game so far.
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Posted byEffKayZA#1861on Feb 8, 2025, 5:43:26 AM
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