Is POE2 Aiming to be the Most Punishing game of all gaming history?

I cannot begin to describe how I feel right now...


It is so ridiculously bad of a design decision to punish players with only 1 single portal and put them in situations like what I just faced..


300+ Hours and I finally found my FIRST Iron Citadel, I managed to clear the entire place well enough and made it to the end boss Geonar.

He was on lvl 4 difficulty or so which isn't a problem for me because I've faced other citadel bosses and did just fine, And I did just fine on this boss as well.

I actually killed him much faster than I anticipated and was caught very off guard by an equally fast death of my own AFTER the encounter was over!

That's right, seconds AFTER the encounter is over, I am hit by something random that I could not even see or comprehend, 1 shotting me dead through 1.5k health and 7k+ Energy Shield (Which might of been a lot more, up to 15k but I am considering 7k to be my base)


It was an incredibly fast 1 shot, and it was basically the first serious damage I faced throughout the entire fight because I did well at following and dodging the mechanics


Then I get to see all of my hours of work and effort in finding this boss, gone in an instant with absolutely no recourse in sight other than "Better luck next time!"



I am not joking at all when I say this makes me want to quit the game, I do not think I can experience many instances like this one and continue to play this game.

I absolutely love the game, but this is beyond punishing, it's unfair un-fun and frankly disrespectful to every players time and effort that has to face an experience like this...


Who was this change for? Please explain to me like I'm 5, who exactly this horrible change helps and how it makes the game "better"

Your claim is absurd. I played many games with way, way more punishing mechanics.

someone has quite obviously never heard of Dwarf Fortress or EVE online.

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AliquamGames#5952 wrote:

Your claim is absurd. I played many games with way, way more punishing mechanics.

Sure, and of course there are more punishing games out there, but my question is WHY is POE aiming to be like these games?

I don't get it, there are SO many punishing mechanics, I don't want to continue playing a game that deletes 100s of my hours of game play on a regular basis.

I am listening to their stream right now and they are saying that they are "prioritizing people having a good time" That's laughable considering something like what I just experienced exists at all in the game

As i said earlier this day : outside of the grinding aspect and some balance issues there & there , PoE 2 is barely mid-tier when it comes to difficulty . You all gotta be either trolling or having the gaming capabilities of some IGN intern .

Clearly you never played games back in the late 1990s or early 2000s.

I remember playing MMOs from back then when you died you lost xp and gear.

Its not the most punishing but it certainly has hardcore aspects to its design. Do I think xp on death AND map loss is a bit much. Yes, if the intent is to attract a more casual audience. But those people have D4 or other ARPGs.

If this was a game designed to make POE more accessable while retaining its current player base, then they likely won't change that.

i havent found a citadel in 400h but they are gonna address that. besides that point, i dont think this game is punishing at all. ever play rogue? :D

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smokesnugsYT#7752 wrote:

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AliquamGames#5952 wrote:

Your claim is absurd. I played many games with way, way more punishing mechanics.

Sure, and of course there are more punishing games out there, but my question is WHY is POE aiming to be like these games?

I don't get it, there are SO many punishing mechanics, I don't want to continue playing a game that deletes 100s of my hours of game play on a regular basis.

I am listening to their stream right now and they are saying that they are "prioritizing people having a good time" That's laughable considering something like what I just experienced exists at all in the game

Well first of, thats not was you asked. You claimed "its trying to be extremely punishing". I would word your question as such: "Why do I experience the game as punishing?". I experience the game as extremely mellow and very easy to play. Yeah there are slight setbacks but its not like the game is forcing you to play hardcore and delete 300h of progress for 1 mistake. Lastly, they are patching multiple pinnacle boss attempts in.

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cvrpapc#7827 wrote:

Clearly you never played games back in the late 1990s or early 2000s.

Yeah and to finish these tedious games back then we had to purchase some obscure Mega Guides to understand how we were supposed to beat this invincible boss or finish this stupid level . We certainly could not go to the Internet to find some help and even less cry a river to the devs about it lmao

Tell me you didn't grow up playing OG Nintendo with out telling me.