Ban Swapscammers

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Lyxara#3978 wrote:

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Bodomi#2100 wrote:

Are you genuinely under the impression that they do not ban scammers at the moment?

What is this "How is this allowed!?" logic?

not sure how the issue is that I bring this topic up when it happened 5 times in a row to me just in the past 25minutes.
But ok, lets keep talking about that.

I hope they ban such accounts, all I want to do is emphasise on it how bad it is and how often it happens.

if you can't keep yourself from typing then feel free to swamp the thread more with it

You're presenting the topic as if GGG purposefully does not punish scammers at the moment.

They do.

Maybe a 5 second time out after both click accept where you can still pull out but can't change anything, I've never seen this issue, the higher the player count the higher the scammer count but not something I've experienced in either game

I'm usually super nervous when parting with currency I've spent days to accumulate tho

Bringing in the console trade market window from 1 would fix that entirely

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Lyxara#3978 wrote:

As another feedback, please ban swap scammers - new players who are not used to this practice will get tilted off the earth.

I myself tried buying certain items, like Morio Incivtus and it's mostly a swap scam ... also other way round with the "missing exalt" scam

Even tho it's early access, this leaves a mark on players to not enjoy the game.

either be on your toes with that, or find another solution to a safe trading

thanks

The solution is simple. Implement an in game auction house like every other game in existence has had since the early 2000s. Will they do it? No probably not. They would rather have scammers run rampant in their game. Oh and don't try calling out anyone for scamming or they will delete your post. They love scammers at GGG.

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Lyxara#3978 wrote:

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Tyrion2#1155 wrote:

do you mean those who try to pay exalts with alch for example?
There is already a fix for that...open eyes.

No.
thanks for no contribution to this topic, have a nice day

"no, I dont want to pay attention, its everyone elses fault when I make mistakes"

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Lyxara#3978 wrote:

not sure how the issue is that I bring this topic up when it happened 5 times in a row to me just in the past 25minutes.
But ok, lets keep talking about that.

How do they catch such accounts?

How does GGG monitor the game such that they can, with a relatively minimal support staff, monitor every single trade ever made between players for this bad-faith hotswapping behavior?

Do they rely on player reports? Okay - the system cannot record the precise nature and history of every trade. A player can report a scam, sure - the team has no possible way to prove the scam. And with no way to prove it, do they simply trust the player doing the reporting and ban whoever the players tell them to ban, sight unseen? Do you see that going poorly, perchance?

Do they stop improving POE2 and spend months building out a system of draconian monitoring, surveillance, and recording instead, specifically so they can catch a handful of scammers?

The problem with "BAN ALL SCAMMERS" is that doing so is beyond impractical and is a waste of the devs' time. Yes, scammers suck. They're terrible, and they can break a new player's enjoyment of the game. But there's not really jack monkey squat GGG can do about it beyond what they already have done. "Open your eyes" is obnoxious and dismissive, yes. It's also really the only advice anyone can offer. Grinding Gear implemented their player trade system with the mouseover requirement for a reason. When making a Big Sale, it's on you to make sure you're getting what you pay for. The devs cannot hold your hand the entire way.

It is simply a reality of player trading that there will always be scummy assholes trying to hoodwink others. No matter what a game dev does, scummy assholes can find workarounds faster than devs can fix them, by orders of magnitude. If you aren't at least minimally aware and canny when trading, you'll wind up taken at some point. That ain't on GGG. it's on you. Much as that sucks to say.