Greater jeweller's orbs are too damn rare

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MaxGor31#4492 wrote:

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Assababud#2808 wrote:

SSF isn't the base game, and GGG does not balance around it.

It was like this in poe1, and i think it's a big mistake to balance around trade.
Now we have a new game so it might be the time to rethink some priorities

Most people do not play SSF or hardcore.

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Assababud#2808 wrote:

Most people do not play SSF or hardcore.

Agree. But also most players would greatly enjoy finding and/or creating their upgrades themselves rather than searching third-party website to buy some stuff.
Many people don't play ssf exactly because drop rates are shit, otherwise they gladly would have.

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Assababud#2808 wrote:

Most people do not play SSF or hardcore.

Odds are, most people don't trade, or barely do so, even on the regular modes. Though the exact percent of players that do so is something only GGG would know.

But regardless, GGG has also stated that they want trade to be annoying enough to not be the go to solution. And having something as core as getting the 4th support slot for even one skill have to be reliant on trading? Not a good look for the game.

I had the same issue.
I started playing in softcore. I entered t15 without a greater jewl. It was just bs.
Found like 6 divs at that time. I didnt want to buy one. After a while the first one dropped.

Then i switched to ssfhc. Thought i would never find one. And then 3 GJ dropped before hitting t15.

Its just rng. Sometimes you are very unlucky.
Still never found a perfect one :D.
You have to grind hard for those.

Would be great if there was a secret mechanic that increased the drop chance if you didnt have one found per character. After your first the normal drop chance would be active. Only for greater ones ofc.

Amen brother! I have over 70 lessers... I have found a total of 6 greater and 2 perfect after 400hrs. Ive tried local knowledge on and off. Its ridiculous.

GGG should let players put lesser jeweler orbs into the reforging bench in order to create greater jeweler orbs. Like many others here, I've found a few perfect jeweler orbs, but no greaters. Being able to just make them from lessers would help both standard and SSF players while simultaneously removing 1 of the more tedious, annoying aspects from the skill gem system.

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MaxGor31#4492 wrote:

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Assababud#2808 wrote:

Most people do not play SSF or hardcore.

Agree. But also most players would greatly enjoy finding and/or creating their upgrades themselves rather than searching third-party website to buy some stuff.
Many people don't play ssf exactly because drop rates are shit, otherwise they gladly would have.

The currency exchange is in-game. Trade forums/search is official. It is unfortunate they removed many of the crafting options from POE1 is this game though.

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Aylaine#3563 wrote:

GGG should let players put lesser jeweler orbs into the reforging bench in order to create greater jeweler orbs. Like many others here, I've found a few perfect jeweler orbs, but no greaters. Being able to just make them from lessers would help both standard and SSF players while simultaneously removing 1 of the more tedious, annoying aspects from the skill gem system.

That is a good idea. Max stack lesser orbs 3x to make one greater. Perfects could be created via corrupting a greater with an extremely low probability.

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MaxGor31#4492 wrote:

Playing on SSF (yea, i know that trade players don't give a shit about anything besides div/hr), lvl 88, T15+ maps -

ZERO (0) greater jewel orbs.

I've even got 2 perfect, but greater - none.

There's clearly something off in rates or drop tables, 5link shouldn't be such a pain in the ass to get.
At this point it's just ridiculous that fusing orbs are BY FAR more stable and affordable wat to get link upgrades than this new "system" (pure rng gated)

I had the same experience early league, before starting to trade - In T5 maps had a Perfect Jeweler Orb and could not use it because I did not have a Greater Jeweler Orb.

Since then, I think I got 3 perfect and 5 greater jewelers orbs. I don't see why Perfect Jewelers Orbs should not be usable without Greater Jeweler Orbs.

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Axterix13#5693 wrote:

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Assababud#2808 wrote:

Most people do not play SSF or hardcore.

Odds are, most people don't trade, or barely do so, even on the regular modes. Though the exact percent of players that do so is something only GGG would know.

But regardless, GGG has also stated that they want trade to be annoying enough to not be the go to solution. And having something as core as getting the 4th support slot for even one skill have to be reliant on trading? Not a good look for the game.

Those players most likely never make it to endgame, which is where trading is most needed to succeed quickly. GGG should make the trade forums more known to new players instead of leaving them in the dark trying to trade on the in-game chat. GGG has added the in-game currency exchange, which alleviates the annoying factor of trading for currency. It could be better, but you already know GGG took ~5 years to integrate POE.trade sites and ~10 years to implement the currency exchange.