Early Access Discussion - Some accounts luckier or unluckier than others? - Forum

" frikabg#3975 wrote: " geoffj#6861 wrote: So I hit 90 on my ranger and about 150 hours play time and farmed less than 60 exalts where as my mate has got the same hours and similar playtime and has farmed over 800 exalts and 10 divs? More detail, ive been running some rarity around 80-100% my entire play through and he has been running mostly almost 0 rarity find. out of my 60 exalts..most of them drop only when doing duos with him and even then I notice how much more drops he gets. I've seen him get 3 perfect jewels in a week while i got 0 in my entire 150 hours.....WTF? There is something HORRIBLY!!!! HORRIBLY!!!! Wrong with the loot system. I don't know if it is something new but I play with a friend of mine. We play together only and don't play the game separately. We are level 68 i think right now. He has looted 1 divine and 28 exalted orbs I have looted 8 exalted orbs so far. The chances of him getting 28 exalted orbs while I get 8 with the same % chance are about 0.172%. Now we are talking about pfff I don't know maybe 40-50 h so far... this isn't about 'luck' ... there is something fundamentally wrong with the drop chances. All the people over here commenting how its luck are 100% wrong... this ain't about luck. Needles to say that I play a lot of games with this friend of mine and this is the first time we see such huge discrepancy in the loot drops in a game where we have same magical drop chance(or similar stat) and same circumstances in general. I get being unlucky a couple of days of gameplay... but 40+ hours? 40hours is such a small sample size for 2 ppl. You can't even talk about percentage until a sample size is in the hundreds of thousands/millions. Than you'll get a good idea of what the precents should be. Like if you looked at all the div drops across all players/hrs played that would be the percentage. It's like you don't understand how rng and large numbers work or something	Posted by baconbyte#0146 on Jan 4, 2025, 11:15:04 PM Quote this Post
" frikabg#3975 wrote: " geoffj#6861 wrote: So I hit 90 on my ranger and about 150 hours play time and farmed less than 60 exalts where as my mate has got the same hours and similar playtime and has farmed over 800 exalts and 10 divs? More detail, ive been running some rarity around 80-100% my entire play through and he has been running mostly almost 0 rarity find. out of my 60 exalts..most of them drop only when doing duos with him and even then I notice how much more drops he gets. I've seen him get 3 perfect jewels in a week while i got 0 in my entire 150 hours.....WTF? There is something HORRIBLY!!!! HORRIBLY!!!! Wrong with the loot system. I don't know if it is something new but I play with a friend of mine. We play together only and don't play the game separately. We are level 68 i think right now. He has looted 1 divine and 28 exalted orbs I have looted 8 exalted orbs so far. The chances of him getting 28 exalted orbs while I get 8 with the same % chance are about 0.172%. Now we are talking about pfff I don't know maybe 40-50 h so far... this isn't about 'luck' ... there is something fundamentally wrong with the drop chances. All the people over here commenting how its luck are 100% wrong... this ain't about luck. Needles to say that I play a lot of games with this friend of mine and this is the first time we see such huge discrepancy in the loot drops in a game where we have same magical drop chance(or similar stat) and same circumstances in general. I get being unlucky a couple of days of gameplay... but 40+ hours? 40hours is such a small sample size for 2 ppl. You can't even talk about percentage until a sample size is in the hundreds of thousands/millions. Than you'll get a good idea of what the precents should be. Like if you looked at all the div drops across all players/hrs played that would be the percentage. It's like you don't understand how rng and large numbers work or something	Posted by baconbyte#0146 on Jan 4, 2025, 11:15:04 PM Quote this Post
" TotesAdorbs#7574 wrote: They probably generate a seed at character or account creation, or possibly generate the seed based on HWID. Try playing from their machine (or vice-versa) if this is feasible. Also try creating a new character or new account from the other person's machine. If any of these alleviate it, then yes, sorry, your account or machine HWID has bad luck. Blame it on crappy modern software dev practices unfortunately. If it is actually like that.. holy fuck! I mean when I think about how they can't even do a proper character naming system instead using some pre-y2k tech for character names that doesn't allow numbers or non-unique names then notion of how the rng is programed in this game being as you described seems very plausible. Programmatically I would think there is no reason for it to be a static seed per account or per character even, it seems like something that could be set per-session really. Presumably only GGG is in a position to know, considering the state of the game I question if they even do (or have ever done) metrics on player experience. Like I would really like to see metrics on how many players have done all 4 trials for example, I bet it is like less than 1% of the player base, and in particular I bet it is way less than the average for warrior players.	Posted by Oblivionbringa#7895 on Jan 4, 2025, 11:36:36 PM Quote this Post
People always think there's a conspiracy, something the dev doesn't tell us when there's RNG involved... they always forget that RNG is RNG and there's nothing else to it. Tech guy	Posted by Warrax#2850 on Jan 4, 2025, 11:56:54 PM Quote this Post
Play with a buddy and probably 80% of uniques that drop are for me. Same ratio when we each play solo, I see about 5 to his 1. But currencies seem equal.	Posted by FruitLord#0833 on Jan 5, 2025, 12:34:58 AM Quote this Post
Yep totally over this game. Over the weekend of farming. His dropped another 2 divines and heap of exalts. I prob got a total of 15 exalts. Similar play times... He doesnt even need to play multiplayer to get loot. He gifted me over 4 divines and 200 exalts, only reason i can even keep up with him when running duos. Getting bored ran 8 maps solo 0 exalt drops. Mate logs in runs random tiered maps solo and gets exalts or other orbs in all of them when i can barely get a shard.	Posted by geoffj#6861 on Jan 5, 2025, 9:23:37 PM Quote this Post
More info. I run the exact same atlas as my mate. His gotten probably 30 unis to drop in solo when ive got probably under 5. Losing motivation id be lucky to even get a orb of transmutation or augmentation to even drop when my mate gets like 5 of each drop per map.	Posted by geoffj#6861 on Jan 5, 2025, 9:30:46 PM Quote this Post
AHH FUCK THIS GAME. 20 MAPS NO ORBS. All t14-t15 maps rares with iridiated and corruption. Almost 0 currency drops...all i got 1 was orb of transmutation and maybe 12 regal shards. corrupted and destroyed all my stuff...boring and a waste of time for me.	Posted by geoffj#6861 on Jan 6, 2025, 5:45:43 AM Quote this Post
Someone, somewhere has lost every coin flip and bet they've ever made. True randomness is terrible, which is why most people prefer pseudo-randomization in games, that is controlled randomization, because normal life is brutal enough. Last edited by Gigs#6884 on Jan 6, 2025, 5:57:53 AM	Posted by Gigs#6884 on Jan 6, 2025, 5:57:12 AM Quote this Post
It's all about MF : so far got a dozen of really desirable currency Divine / Greater Jewelry without juicing maps to the max yet because i'm running a character with +100_200 Rarity on gear at all time . "Go buy a supporter pack and I might take you seriously." ~ Generic PoE whale https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-post/25976591 ICE BELL RINGER ~ Endgame Farming ~ Pinnacle Eraser ~ Gamepad Gameplay ~ Low Budget ~ 0.1.1 Version https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3705057	Posted by Ashyev#5110 on Jan 6, 2025, 6:06:49 AM Quote this Post