"Crafting" endgame minion scepter

+5 minions on scepter have weight of 100 and requires 81 ilvl.
at ilvl 81-82 there are 42125 weights total.
=> chance of getting +5 minions is ~0.237%, or 1 of ~421 suffixes.

for preffixes there are 8 tiers of +spirit and some of +spirit+mana combinated preffixes.
Hitting both of them is very unrealistic. Preffixes have 37250 total weights.
t8 (61-65%) weight is 150;
t7 (56-60%) weight is 250;
t6 (51-55%) weight is 350;
So hitting one of those (51-65%) is 750/37250 = ~2%.

Hitting both with trans+aug is 421.25*37250/750 = 1 of 20922 times, ie ~0.0048%.
With all 6 affixes (regal+3exalts or alchemy+exalts or pure drop) - it will be higher for sure. ~9x times (if i didnt reallly mistake) = ~0.043% (1 of 2324 times).

=> it's impossible in ssf.
Yet in trade where thousands of players drop thousands of 82ilvl scwepters - it's possible to get few for 500+ divines.

I totally skip extras as hunting for any other affixes as specific auras/attributes or double spirit+mana.

Crafting sux, as there no +minion or +spirit essenses/omens/anything.
For amulets it's even more worse.

(tip for mages: maigc amulet with +castspeed and +spelldamage can be essensed +caster modifier for 100% +all spells. Lucky guys those sparkmages)

Weight and removed crafting from the game completely stops the progression from the middle of the game to the end, as it begins to require simply cosmic investments and make yourself something simply unrealistic, who came up with such a system is detached from reality. And the cherry on the cake, the purification sphere removed from the game, bingo!

Do not try to scraft anything in the game, it is unrealistic, I have been trying to scraft one ring since the start of the game, and it did not work, do you realize the level of absurdity?!

Well, you don't need a 5 scepter with spirit. I'm currently making 12, 13s and I'm still using a lvl 30 which had a ton of spirit and 2 minion skill.

If you feel like you need the best of everything you'll never be satisfied. It's thr best BECAUSE it's difficult to get.

A small off topic but where can I check weights?

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saif3r#2522 wrote:

A small off topic but where can I check weights?

Craft of Exile: https://www.craftofexile.com/?game=poe2

There is a note on their PoE 2 site:
Current weightings values have been extrapolated using a special method. You can view the details about this by going to the Weightings page.

So in theory some weights may be off.

If you are not familiar with Craft of Exile. You can select the item type One-Handed Weapons => Sceptre and then you are displayed all possible affixes. If you click on one of them the different tiers are displayed. You can read the different values from the table.

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Avaricta#4758 wrote:

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saif3r#2522 wrote:

A small off topic but where can I check weights?

Craft of Exile: https://www.craftofexile.com/?game=poe2

There is a note on their PoE 2 site:
Current weightings values have been extrapolated using a special method. You can view the details about this by going to the Weightings page.

So in theory some weights may be off.

If you are not familiar with Craft of Exile. You can select the item type One-Handed Weapons => Sceptre and then you are displayed all possible affixes. If you click on one of them the different tiers are displayed. You can read the different values from the table.

Thank you!

you arent trying to craft an "endgame" scepter

you are trying to craft a MIRROR TIER scepter, in ssf, with no resources.

NOT going to happen. if it was that easy to make MIRROR TIER items, anything less than that would be absolutely worthless.

rare items in the game should have the potential to be insane. the top rolled rares should be very far beyond anything you can realistically ever hope to find or craft.

this makes loot exciting and allows for insane lottery win outcomes, thats why poe1 has rare items that are genuinely exciting where almost every other arpg gets rare items wrong and all their items are dogshit no one gives a crap about.



there should be things in the game at the top of all item groups, top end rares, bis chase uniques, mirrors etc that exist in the game but with such low drop rates that most people will never see one drop even with 10,000 hours play. that should be a balance goal.

i think player should understand this principal and not expect that everything in the game is supposed to be obtained.

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tats27#7963 wrote:

Well, you don't need a 5 scepter with spirit. I'm currently making 12, 13s and I'm still using a lvl 30 which had a ton of spirit and 2 minion skill.

If you feel like you need the best of everything you'll never be satisfied. It's thr best BECAUSE it's difficult to get.

yep, i cleared the atlas questline with +2 and almost max spirit rolls

then found a +4 as blue and augmented spirit

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Thror2k5#7154 wrote:

you arent trying to craft an "endgame" scepter

you are trying to craft a MIRROR TIER scepter, in ssf, with no resources.

NOT going to happen. if it was that easy to make MIRROR TIER items, anything less than that would be absolutely worthless.

Nope. It's not mirror tier item power-wise.
But rolling it is kinda close lol.
It's just the thing there is no other ways to scale minions.

At the moment i wrote this, i was already farming t18s. And my scepter is +4 +60 spirit on it also. At this point of a game for me +1 minions is equal ~65-75 spirit. So if i want an upgrade, i cant relate on +4 anymore, as even max +spirit and +(spirit+mana) cant give enough to compete vs +5 +same spirit.
And i'm not aiming scepter to have +crit chance aura +crit bonus aura and other useful for me stats.