GGG - Stand true to what you said about player feedback

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Strangehill#1736 wrote:

Without lightning spear I think diversity would be better than it was in 0.1

That there is one skill so massively op it's in over 50% of poe ninja builds.. remove lightning spear and the spread is much smoother

Only if these ppl start using other skills. Ppl could just stop playing PoE2 too, so...

So your complaint is that there's not enough OP builds?

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Strangehill#1736 wrote:

So your complaint is that there's not enough OP builds?

That's not what I said...

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When ppl talk about "balance" in a game, they talk about "bringing broken/op builds down and underperforming builds up", so they end up in the "middle ground"

Is what you said

They obviously don't have the manpower to properly balance every skill available, but NOT introducing something like lightning spear could have gone a lot further to assist as now everyone wants to play LS because there is no equivalence and think that that's how the game should be

Instead they're stuck too afraid to nerf LS and don't want to buff other things up to its level

Same with chain heralds last league

It is fast and a one button clear. But is it really that op?
It is just that ls can clear a little faster. I think it is more the economy and scarse loot that make everybody play ls.
It is more or less given to you through the passive notes. You can make a T4 work with it. But it is not the uber oneshot skill.
There are other skills or interaction that should be nerfed before that. In my opinion it doesnt even matter, if it is a 1,5 screen clear and everybody alse can only do 1 screen at a time. Movement speed will slow down your progress no matter what. But we have even less builds ad discovery to really discuss if ls is op or not, because they make you play only one build with their general philosophy.

Biggest issue for balance is there is not a rest realm type of thing here for elite players to give feedback on upcoming changes. I know many games with this type of player base will have a test server that you can see what is coming and feedback can be provided to devs FAR before mistakes get made through just going straight to LIVE....

this is the REAL way to manage a live service game not cowboy yippe yip decisions from the hip that lead to worse problems. Heck they exposed how they balanced abilities testing with a 100th level guy and realized OH SNAP this really nerfed a guy in Act1... etc.

They need a test realm/PTR...right now there should be a server running .2g that lets you make a guy any level and play the upcoming changes and give feedback.

Most other builds are not screen clear, they are pack-at-a-time clear which I get the impression is their preferred clear rate

cute, but you are not the target audience, the target audience are the people playing a league for 5 days, buying a supporter pack and then quitting to reduce server costs.

When you look it at that way, its a fine league.
@op Google the term echochamber, you and your veteran guildmates are one.The five dudes that actually play ruthless agree.

And lets not forget, the 50%+ players of poe2 disagree or they wouldn't play the most popular screen clearer.
But lets be frank, if GGG would actually release poe1 leagues again, nobody would care anyway, being to busy actually playing a good game.

Most builds dont have the heat seeking missle ls is. But you can clear whatever comes into your presence with also only one button on warrior.
We can discuss, if that is really fair. That would be more the defensive side. Dead mobs 2 screens away wont hurt you.
It is even a better combat feeling, if you can see what you kill. Have quit amazon for that reason. Same old same old. Like spark archmage.
But I cant see any difference else. Even if it is a little bit faster than other skills on a professional level. I would argue most people loose more time in hideout regardless. Ls is really not that op. It would be, if everybody could like 2 shot bosses with it. You need to invest a lot to make that happen.

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tsunamikun#0433 wrote:

And lets not forget, the 50%+ players of poe2 disagree or they wouldn't play the most popular screen clearer.

D4 had this with spiritborn and that suuucked it basically killed any interest left over from pre-xpac

When every streamer is playing it and the top builds are all using it and it's the only S on tier lists it's OP to the point everyone who looks up a build will play it too and sulk because gear is too expensive and blame the loot tables because they aren't getting the OP gear to go with the OP build

meanwhile nothing else gets any attention