(Outdated)Frostbolt/Eye of Winter, Coldsnap, Cast on freeze Comet
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Is there really no way to make cold Sorc work without CoF? Is it that bad at clearing endgame without the Comet spam?
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" sure or you think cold sorc are completely dead now ? :) maybe tweak a little bit your passives and you good to go.. problem is everyone use CoF now we have to find another possible solution for going to the endgame.. you can play fine manually casting comet but in the endgame the cast time kills you. Maybe the solution is find a working build without comet. |
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" You need to meet one of two conditions for a good clear build: 1) Spammable high DPS with high (effective) AOE. This is includes builds that fire lots of projectiles with small aoe each (as long as they are high DPS). Also includes spreadable damage debuffs. 2) Spammable high DPS with chaining. Problem for Frost: Freezing Shards (staff): Variable DPS (shotguns), no AOE, can chain Ice Nova: Low DPS, low AOE, cannot be chained Frost Bomb: Low DPS, low AOE, cannot be chained, cannot be mass spammed Frostbolt: Low DPS, low AOE, cannot be chained Cold Snap: Variable DPS (due to conditional req.), very low AOE, cannot be chained Frost Wall: Variable DPS (due to needing to be destroyed), low AOE, cannot be chained, cannot be mass spammed Comet: Low DPS (cast time and dodging needed), low AOE, cannot be chained EoW: Low DPS, low aoe, can chain CoF was making Comet high DPS by bypassing the cast time, it was making it high effective AOE by calling them down in many places. That was why CoF Comet was an effective clearer. No other Frost spell has high (via bypassing) DPS. So, yeah, Comet spam was the only option. Frost Wall works for bosses due to the crushing - and I am highly expecting soon something along the lines of "large creatures crushing Frost Wall causes 10% damage". What could solve this? If GGG let detonating Frostbolt with Cold Snap/Ice Nova detonate ALL current Frostbolts (with the respective spell), or at least within a large AOE, then this could work with Cold Snap as long as Frostbolts reliably freezes (which Ice Nova could help with). It would work like any other projectile spam with aoe/chain, albeit a fair bit less friendly due to needing to time the detonation rather than being impact orientated. A more friendly version would be to just have Cold Snap itself have a large AOE activation. This would not need the Frostbolt interaction. It would still be conditional on having frozen targets, so not a one-button AOE. However, since they seem to want the Frostbolt --> Cold Snap interaction then I feel this is less likely to happen. Alternatively getting away from Cold Snap, GGG could make EoW high DPS since it is the only spell that can be chained. Well, the Freezing Shards from the staff can too, but the shotgun nature would preclude this from high DPS for clearing (since each projectile would need to be considerably higher DPS, and you cannot have this AND shotgunning). Last edited by Aimeryan#0430 on Dec 12, 2024, 8:12:19 PM
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dang just as i bought a 20 ex es armor LOL fml
well t1 maps are still pretty ez, i guess ill just keep exploring the low level end game until they fix this |
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" Just wanted to point out that's the conditions for a good clear build... in PoE 1. Obviously the devs are going to make it hard to do it in PoE 2 as it is not their vision of what the game should be (I'm not using the term vision in a sarcastic way). Anything that at its core goes back to a zooming one button screen nuking build à la PoE 1 is going to get nerfed into oblivion. |
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" Yeah honestly mapping with Frostbolt or Eye of Winter is functional, and would be fine if that was the standard for POE2. But right now it isn't. Several other builds still 2-shot the screen, so cold casters have fallen behind the current norm. |
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honestly comet is so slow i think im just done at this point
certainly not about to level a whole new character idk what GGG was thinking, maps like this are not fun at all now |
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I dont really want to read though a post full of complaints. But as of right now frostwall with selfcast comet is working well. i am also using cof comet. Cast frostwall stand next to it most mobs will run and hit the frostwall. Then just comet them and the wall and it will one shot any white or blue atm. Im in t1 maps and this works fine. is the complaints that this doesnt work later? For bosses you dont even need to cast comet just frostwall and frostbomb. Im not currently bothering with the other ice skills cause they do 0 damage. But elite and bosses are frozen enough due to frostwall being op that i have time to comet.
I expect frostwall(alone almost permafreezes large mobs) will be nerfed so try this while you can. My only current issue other then being a bit squishy to phy is i just picked up a +6 cold skill staff and my 3 link self cast comet with unleash is like 650 mana per cast which is laughable cost for a 3 link. so i have to drop unleash for now unless i can manage over 2k mana with gear later. |
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Ayo thanks for making some kind of guide, I appreciate it! Been doing well now that I'm getting gem sup 2s so i can get everything rolling otherwise most boss fights have been alright.
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gear drops are beyond terrible imo when you hit act2 cruel id stop and buy some gear with es and life. id guess you wil have over 10ex. each one will buy a good piece.
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