we have a winner

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hasatt0 wrote:
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Nomancs wrote:
I entered boss room and alt tabbed because I wanted to check email. I ended up doing other stuff forgetting about D4 and that entering a boss room starts the fight. When I got back to the game, boss was already dead, my minions killed it without me doing a single thing.


Not sure if talking about PoE, d2, d3, d4 or any other arpg with minion build

Except this is how D4 looks since level 1 and in PoE bosses like Maven or Sirus will kill you or your minions, or both especially if you go there on level 55 with gear from campaign ;)
Biggest compliments for my crafted items - "bs, they must have been RMT'ed"

I'm disabled, I have rare case of semperduravera, so I can write things that may look rude, but it is because of disability - I'm forced to tell truth using words you may not like.
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kyobusa wrote:
I can see why Chris and Bex quit interacting with the community (probably also why Bex left tbh)


Chris doesn't live here anymore
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And then there are stash tabs, which are absolutely essential


Just to add to this. Many don't realize, but you cannot even engage in trading unless you pay GGG for a premium tab.

Also how in the fuck GGG gets away with charging us to turn off an effect is beyond me. For the love of all that's decent, make that a default option.

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."
- Abraham Lincoln
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ArtCrusade wrote:


Difference being that PoE is f2p and D4 is 70 dollars out of the box

winner was charging 20€ extra for headstart in lilith race (that was a massive failure)
It is funny to see actors jumping in D4 topic to shit on PoE, like trying to change topic (and try to make it look casually) from “D4 bad” to “but in PoE…”.
Biggest compliments for my crafted items - "bs, they must have been RMT'ed"

I'm disabled, I have rare case of semperduravera, so I can write things that may look rude, but it is because of disability - I'm forced to tell truth using words you may not like.
Last edited by Nomancs on May 17, 2024, 11:18:42 AM
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DarthSki44 wrote:


Just to add to this. Many don't realize, but you cannot even engage in trading unless you pay GGG for a premium tab.



This is a straight lie and you know it.
Last edited by RandallPOE on May 17, 2024, 11:16:47 AM
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RandallPOE wrote:
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DarthSki44 wrote:


Just to add to this. Many don't realize, but you cannot even engage in trading unless you pay GGG for a premium tab.



This is a straight lie and you know it.


Fine, making intentionally clunky trade/stash system which gets more and more tedious the deeper you are in endgame, and then charging real money for QoL solution to both is totally not insidious :)

Do you know many people which still trade via the forums, without a single public tab?
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RandallPOE wrote:
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DarthSki44 wrote:


Just to add to this. Many don't realize, but you cannot even engage in trading unless you pay GGG for a premium tab.



This is a straight lie and you know it.


He's right and you know it. Thus playing with words is low:

You can engage, try, get a very short try... But it ends up here: the goal is to get players hooked. F2P is a lie: this is Free to Try.

Btw ggg behaved correctly by stopping arguing about this “free”. This is now years we aren't hearing about this in their posts, feel free to check, maybe i'm wrong.

Premium tabs, and many utility tabs (basically currency, fragments, maps...) are absolutely needed if you want to play maps, even low ones.

GL
Last edited by Universalis on May 17, 2024, 1:46:34 PM
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Universalis wrote:
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RandallPOE wrote:
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This is a straight lie and you know it.


He's right and you know it. Thus playing with words is low:

You can engage, try, get a very short try... But it ends up here: the goal is to get players hooked. F2P is a lie: this is Free to Try.

Btw ggg behaved correctly by stopping arguing about this “free”. This is now years we aren't hearing about this in their posts, feel free to check, maybe i'm wrong.

Premium tabs, and many utility tabs (basically currency, fragments, maps...) are absolutely needed if you want to play maps, even low ones.

GL


I'll just assume you have no idea how to list items on the trade without using a premium tab which is fine but it still doesn't make the statement "you cannot even engage in trading unless you pay GGG for a premium tab" correct. Shifting the goalposts doesn't make it true either.
You can technically trade without premium tabs, its just nightmarishly difficult and basically reliant on people actually browsing the trade subforum, however actually participating in the economy without at least a currency tab is basically impossible simply because you cannot store enough of the currency to do anything with it. I would know, I tried to not buy any stash tabs my first league and I was nearly stuck in SSF except technically trade league because my only source of income was the chaos orb recipe and accumulating more than a few dozen of a given currency meant that I had no room for anything else and this is a game where you can and will burn thousands of most currencies making good items.
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RandallPOE wrote:
I'll just assume you have no idea how to list items on the trade without using a premium tab which is fine but it still doesn't make the statement "you cannot even engage in trading unless you pay GGG for a premium tab" correct. Shifting the goalposts doesn't make it true either.


You better not assume anything, arguing about forum's trade section as a reasonable alternative to premium tabs system is not realistic. Check out the amount of new posts per day if you have some understanding issues.

Since years the increase in items/components/fragments quantity and diversity (to fill up tabs, precisely) slowly made this "alternative" a clownish joke.

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You can technically trade without premium tabs, its just nightmarishly difficult and basically reliant on people actually browsing the trade subforum, however actually participating in the economy without at least a currency tab is basically impossible simply because you cannot store enough of the currency to do anything with it. I would know, I tried to not buy any stash tabs my first league and I was nearly stuck in SSF except technically trade league because my only source of income was the chaos orb recipe and accumulating more than a few dozen of a given currency meant that I had no room for anything else and this is a game where you can and will burn thousands of most currencies making good items.


Technically the forum trade is like an item showcase for those selling mirror level items AND to sell an item you are actually using
Last edited by Universalis on May 17, 2024, 3:09:56 PM

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