Melee skills in 3.23

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satanttin wrote:

mean you don't have to use totems.... sure u don't lose some deeps point is u don't really need them.

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but u do, they are balancing dps values around you havving those totems up

Totems are very lame and boring, unless for some reason you want to make a build around them.

Please buff melee in other ways.

If I play melee I want to hit things with my weapon, I don't want to repeatedly summon stuff.

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satanttin wrote:

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hmcg020 wrote:

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satanttin wrote:

mean you don't have to use totems.... sure u don't lose some deeps point is u don't really need them.

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I mean, you don't have to use totems... Sure you'll lose at least a third or so of your peak dps. My point is that you don't really need them.

peak dps u mean peak of ur burst? yes that's right it's not needed. is it meta to use it? well obviously lmao x'D
but so much meta is not needed unless u do ubers really.

I love ubers, and melee. Now what?

Melee already has lowest damage uptime of any class why not gimp it some more...

A additional click ever so often during actual boss battles, how shocking.

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Pashid wrote:

An additional click every so often during actual boss battles, how shocking.

As much as I love sarcasm, this kind of reductionism is just so disingenuous.

I mean if you didn't private literally everything about your profile, we could understand your perspective. Guessing you have good reasons to need to hide all your builds and gear though.

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Pashid wrote:

A additional click ever so often during actual boss battles, how shocking.

It's less that the click is hard, and more that its not ... interesting.

Flasks, totems, blessings, all just 1 click buttons to increase DPS by X amount. At least flasks your use is limited (unless you invest very heavily) so you have to think.

Totems arent even that. Its almost free to use, and should always be up, so no choice needed. Just boring.

And then the game balances around you doing that, so where the devs might let you do 10M dps at a certain gear investment, now you do 5M and they expect you to click the 3 buttons each time you want to do 10M.



Interactive totems are not impossible. Some (bad) examples off the top of my head. Totems buffed a lot but your dps goes to zero while its up, so its a choice or alternative, maybe you use when you cant directly dps. Or totems snapshot your dps over last 4 seconds before you use so you have to choose more wisely when to summon. I dont know, these arent great.

And I dont think totems are terrible or horrible to use, but I get the argument they could be more interative rather than "Click these two buttons every X seconds to sustain 25% more dps"

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hmcg020 wrote:

I mean if you didn't private literally everything about your profile, we could understand your perspective. Guessing you have good reasons to need to hide all your builds and gear though.

More like I do it because it's satisfying to know that one or another person gets upset and triggered about the hidden profile. It's not that I have to hide anything but it's nice to intentionally trigger all the profile/character check warriors that show up on my profile upon a comment on the forum and try to make some stupid assumptions based on that :)


Melee is already not in it's best state, but it's better to be happy with the current benefits from totems. Cause all the crying will only lead to changes without any compensation to melee's itself at some point. Shocking how people thrive so badly for even weaker and worse melee builds in exchange of not having to press a button ever so often during a boss fight.

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Pashid wrote:

More like I do it because it's satisfying to know that one or another person gets upset and triggered about the hidden profile. It's not that I have to hide anything but it's nice to intentionally trigger all the profile/character check warriors that show up on my profile upon a comment on the forum :)

The irony of that comment is that you're saying people upset about a single click are ridiculous, and yet it takes a single click to see you want to hide your profile for some reason. Nice.

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Pashid wrote:

Melee is already not in it's best state, but it's better to be happy with the current benefits from totems. Cause all the crying will only lead to changes without any compensation to melee's itself at some point. Shocking how people thrive so badly for even weaker and worse melee builds in exchange of not having to press a button every so often during a boss fight.

Throwing out speculation about what devs will do like it's fact, then strawmanning peoples' opinions about totems. How could anyone have an issue with the single press of a button!? You either don't play melee, or you're internationally trying to make people's issues with the totems sound ridiculous. Reducing evetything people have mentioned about why totems being a mandatory burden over the years to whY u C4nt pR3ss butt0n ever so often l0L! . [Removed by Support]

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hmcg020 wrote:

and yet it takes a single click to see you want to hide your profile for some reason. Nice.

I've mentioned my reasons for that and it's working pretty well as intended cause you're still all over about the hidden profile for unknown reason :)

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hmcg020 wrote:

Throwing out speculation about what devs will do like it's fact, then strawmanning peoples' opinions about totems.

It's not really something new that the devs haven't really done any good changes for melee in a long while and most stuff actually ended up more as a anti melee change. The last somewhat useful change was the buff for some unique weapons, but that alone didn't put melee builds in a better spot. They have now a good way to get a good "I can settle on that" weapon, but that's about it.

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Pashid wrote:

"More like I do it because it's satisfying to know that one or another person gets upset.

Now that tells a lot about Your true intentions,more then You probably wanted to tell ! :P